BLOCKED Aircraft List.

Looking for a list of BLOCKED Aircraft. Like the aircraft that is blocked on public side of

Trying to update my database. So I don’t keep coming back to Flightaware to see if it’s tracking on the site. When I see the plane flying.

Thanks for any leads to this request. :smiley:

I see FAA doesn’t have a list :cry: … equest-616

A list is not available and even if there was one, aircraft go on and off it daily, so keeping one handy would not be a good reference.

Have I ever expressed my opinion about blocked aircraft? :stuck_out_tongue:

No Rob, why not share your thoughts with the group?

While I may have mixed feelings about about the aircraft of publically traded companies having their aircraft blocked from tracking…it’s of no one’s concern regarding the travels of privately held, privately owned aircraft. :exclamation:

Sorry Rob. :stuck_out_tongue:

Don’t apologize to me. Apologize to the taxpayers who subsidize the socialist system for the privately owned aircraft’s owner. Ohhhhhh!!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

You, as an aircraft owner know full well that you pay for the system as a user…

Court Opens Blocked N Numbers

AVweb AVflash

March 1, 2010

A federal court has ruled that the FAA must release aircraft registration information previously kept secret in a special program if it receives a Freedom of Information request.

For about 10 years, private aircraft operators have been able to have their N numbers “blocked” from outside scrutiny under the National Business Aviation Association’s Blocked Aircraft Registration Request (BARR) program ( submitted an FOIA request to the FAA to release the list of BARR participants, claiming the owners of the aircraft were using the program to prevent public scrutiny of their use of the aircraft. The FOIA request came shortly after the Big Three automakers made headlines by using corporate aircraft to travel to Washington to ask for federal bailouts.

NBAA went to court to block the release of the information citing security concerns, but on Friday a D.C. district court ruled the FOIA requests must be honored; it did not extend the order to include real-time requests for information on aircraft.

That the information can only be released through the formal FOIA process is of some solace to NBAA, but it regards the ruling as a mistake.

“NBAA has long believed that security and other imperatives make it absolutely essential to protect our Members’ aircraft and flight information from being made widely available, which is why we created the BARR program,”
said Bob Lamond, NBAA Director, Air Traffic Services and Infrastructure.
“Unfortunately, and in spite of our work to uphold the BARR program through every legal avenue available, the court has ruled the above information cannot remain permanently sealed.”

NBAA says it doesn’t know what ProPublica plans to do with the information, but it’s ready to help members in a media relations role if they’re contacted about their aircraft use.

I don’t care who’s on the plane or even who owns it. NBAA can sell flight numbers to the individual operators. I just want to see the flight and the flight information and statistics. I never assume who might be on a plane or why they’re going from point a to point b.

In response to a lawsuit filed by the National Business Aviation Association against the FAA and ProPublica, a United States district court recently ruled that the FAA is bound by the rules of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), and must disclose the list of tail numbers of aircraft that are on the FAA Block List. Many of our users have inquired as to what this means for FlightAware flight tracking information. FlightAware would like to pass along the following key points:

  • The scope of the ruling applied is to disclose the list of registration numbers of aircraft on the blocked list, not to disclose current or historical flight tracking positions. FlightAware cannot disclose tracking information of aircraft on the Block List (with the exception of FlightAware’s Selective Unblocking customers).

  • To access the list of blocked aircraft, a person must file a Freedom of Information Act request with the FAA. FlightAware cannot pass along this information.

Further clarifications of this matter, if needed, should be directed to the FAA.

are flightaware ever going to list blocked aircraft on the trackers with blocked as the flight i.d?

I made my own ‘Blocked List’ from the aircraft I seen in Southern California.
So far it’s little over 800+ N-numbers.

(If anyone wants to see it. Just send a PM) or Should we start a new topic for list of “Blocked N-numbers” If other forum members want to help build the “Blocked List”.

Only if the law changes.

The whole idea of being blocked, is so that it can’t be tracked!

Hey AZ you can do that on I track our competition all the time. It’s tricky but you can do it

Well not really, all blocked aircraft still file flight plans; all that is blocked is the callsign/registration!

For us spotters if the flightplan was included with “blocked” as the callsign then it would give us a heads up of whats due.

It’s been done before on other tracker sites, so not impossible

The staff posts in this thread explain our position on displaying blocked flights.

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That’s because they have blocking at the ASDI level. At that level the information is only supposed to be available to the operator (so they can see/track their own aircraft) by agreement between the operator and the ASDI vendor(s).

If the blocking is at the FAA level, then no one has access to the information.

That depends on the level of blocking requested by the operator…ASDI level or FAA level.

But then that would defeat the purpose of blocking wouldn’t it.

Operators block their aircraft to maintain their privacy from peeping Toms or “spotters”, among others…who have no need for the information other than curiosity.

So, if you submit a FOIA request to the FAA for a specific N number, would that number then show up on FlightAware when you search, after the request is approved? What would you actually get from the FAA in response to your request? I want to try it just for fun. I recently flew to Haiti for work on the Marriott CL600 (N57MH), and want to see where its been lately :slight_smile:

Bob Zajko
Glasair N73RZ (proudly not blocked!)