My photos your rules?


#1

When I joined your website back in 2007 I must say I didn’t read the rules on what you could do with my photo’s And now in 2011 I feel like such a fool :unamused: . If I leave your website what happens to my photos? I also find it sad that since the photos are mine that you don’t have a delete button that I could remove my photos! Sure you tell us to send you a link on the photos we want to delete. And If I do that are they gone for good? Are do you have a backup to are old photos? I truly feel you have us by the :question: . And I’m sorry I didn’t read the rules to the letter years ago.


#2

This is the hard way to learn a lesson.

Part (most) of the problem is that the terms of service conditions on this and 99.99% of other sites are written by bottom feeders* in small type and require setting aside a full day to read them. Why can’t they be written in English and have a larger type?

*lawyers


#3

You own all the content that you submit, regardless of your affiliation with FlightAware. However, because we distribute the submitted photos in the newsletter, flight tracking pages when associated with a particulate aircraft, Facebook page, photo contests, etc, it would not be possibly to guarantee compliance with a request to completely remove use of a photo.

That may be the case on some web sites. However, the license you are describing is two sentences in 12pt font:


#4

I stand corrected. I’m glad to see that this is in the 0.01% of web pages that has readable TOS.


#5

Thanks! Written by our developers to be as simple as possible and specify the minimum requirements for us to be allowed to accept & use photos while retaining as many rights as possible for photographers that are sharing their content via FlightAware.


#6

PLEASE DELETE THESE PHOTOS AT THIS TIME THANK YOU!

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#7

And if it wasn’t for the Photographers your website wouldn’t be Very Good at all!


#8

I disagree with this. It was great before the pictures section was added. It’s still great in spite of the pictures section.
I personally believe that too much resources were used for the picture section while things on the main site (i.e. the only reason for the site - flight tracking) that needed improvement were neglected. Things like adding search to the arrivals/departures lists.

This is not a picture site nor should it ever be. It is a site for tracking aircraft. If you want pictures of airplanes go to airliners.net or jetphotos.net


#9

Maybe its a personal thing, but what is the problem with leaving the photos on flightaware? How does it hurt you? Not criticizing, but curious when I see some taking such a tight approach to ownership.


#10

How does it hurt me :question: First off the photo’s I have posted here on FlightAware are not my best work but just like a Child they are mine! If the Photo’s are not needed then FlightAware should make it easier for the people who post them to delete them. But with the rules that this website added to a True Photographer are just plain Wrong! Sure It was my mistake not to read the rules :blush: But unlike a lot of people I’m not Perfect :exclamation:

(Facebook page, photo contests, etc, it would not be possibly to guarantee compliance with a request to completely remove use of a photo.)

This quote doesn’t make any sense? If I leave your website for good one of these days then My Photos should go with me!

(That may be the case on some web sites. However, the license you are describing is two sentences in 12pt font:)

How about right before one is to add a Photo to FlightAware?
You put this little quote (You grant FlightAware a worldwide, royalty-free, unlimited, irrevocable license to use, transmit, distribute, and sell any submitted content.)

Sure you have the (Please do not upload images you do not own or photos with a watermark; they will be deleted.)
FlightAware Photo License Agreement bar one has to click :question:

How about putting the rules on uploading photo’s up front and center and have a box which one must check to agree they understand the Rules :question:


#11

+1

I’m sure you’ll find the level of ‘competitiveness’, backbiting and general whining there much more to your taste. It’s not needed here; bub-bye.


#12

Why is Flight Aware responsible, and therefore obligated to make it easier to remove pictures that maybe shouldn’t have been uploaded in the first place if they’re not your “best work”?

Seriously…to us who use FA in connection with our hobby of aviation, FA is a great FREE site that we can phoam out on watching airport activity, or figure out what that all white 737 was flying over, or check our our fellow phoamer’s photos, or discuss in the message boards. I get sick of these people who attack FA like they’re paying this huge premium and are owed something by FA! . Honestly, find another hill to die upon, this is ridiculous.

To say that if it weren’t for the photo section FA is “not very good” is laughable, grow up! :unamused:


#13

You ask me to Grow Up :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Why is FlightAware so sacred about a little change :question: [size=150][/size]


#14

“Sacred”? :unamused: :blush::laughing: If you look at the ridiculously bad photos that some continue to upload I think the more important question is “why don’t some people use judgement before uploading their photos?”


#15

Sacred? No %$#@ing way I have taken on bigger fish and have Won! I believe a lot of people have been posting Bad photos so FlightAware wouldn’t be able to Sell them? How about that Mr. :unamused: ?


#16

I’m sorry. I underacheived and only learned one language in school, could you uh, put that last post in English for me? Thanks.


#17

after deciphering that, I think you said Flight Aware is selling the photos they post? Get real man, do you have a bridge near you that you can drive off of?


#18

And you are one Sick Dude if you want me to Kill Myself :question:
FlightAware Media License
Do not submit content you do not own (e.g., work belonging to someone else or that you found on the Internet).
Inclusion
Any submitted content must not infringe on the trademark, copyright, or parent rights of any third property. FlightAware has the right to moderate, modify, or delete any and all images or media without prejudice.
Image Ownership
The owner/submitter of any content continues to retain ownership to the submitted content.
(FlightAware License)
You grant FlightAware a worldwide, royalty-free, unlimited, irrevocable license to use, transmit, distribute, and :open_mouth: (sell any submitted content). :open_mouth:


#19

These photos have been deleted.


#20

Thank You :astonished: