I call BS


#1

I call BS on 99% of the photos Bob Dunbar has posted, I don’t think he took any of those photos. I guess he missed the first paragraph of FlightAwares media license.

FlightAware Media License
Do not submit content you do not own (e.g., work belonging to someone else or that you found on the Internet).


#2

Hmm, it’s possible that some of his photos may indeed be originating from other sources:
flightaware.com/photos/user/rwdunbar46

If you can find specific examples from his uploads that have a copyright associated with someone else then we can take further action. Google image search is useful for this. google.com/images


#3

Really Possible, Id say from the pictures 99.9% belong to someone else.

If I were a staff member I would EMAIL him and ask for proof of ownership and if none come delete them. Period.

Your reputation could be severely compromised by actions such as this.


#4

He would had to have been there taking pictures from the 1940’s to present day. Do you think he was actually there taking pics of WWII planes, Korean war jets and the SR-71? That would be one long career as a photographer. Some of the WWII/Korean warbirds pictures are pictures that I’ve seen in books before. Most of the later ones could have been taken by him or anyone else at a fly-in, hard to say

Of course the moderators here don’t really care, they let people post any and all, out of focus, shot through fence, dot in the distance, can’t aim a camera, or 20 pictures of the same plane from the same angle over and over. BORING!
And then they let the poster self vote all their their own pictures as “excellent”. All, so people can up their “scores” and be self important.


#5

I know my pictures are not of the greatest submissions, but I did take them all myself. And if he did take all those pics I will be the first to man up and apologize to Bob.


#6

Let’s set the record straight. I do not post pictures that are copyrighted. And I have had many of them, which I took, for years. I know what the license agreement on Flightaware stipulates.


#7

One more thought. My Father is/was a WWII Vet. There are many more pictures that I now own that he took during his time with the 8th Air Force in Africa and Europe. Try calling that BS!


#8

For starters, this one:
flightaware.com/photos/view/1060 … tes/page/1

is from here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Boein … 4S-011.jpg
with the Source: US Goverment

This one:
flightaware.com/photos/view/1060 … tes/page/1

is from here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:B17g_ … flight.jpg
credited to: Master Sgt. Michael A. Kaplan

This one:
flightaware.com/photos/view/1060 … tes/page/1

is from here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sr71_1.jpg
credited to: U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Michael Haggerty

Anyone want me to continue? This guy should have all the photos removed from the site and be banned.


#9

There are over 300,000 photos posted on Flightaware. Are they all original and privately owned?


#10

So you just went from taking the pictures, to “there are probably other stolen images on FlightAware”? Amazing.


#11

Agreed!!! :wink:


#12

Someone get a rope! :smiling_imp:


#13

They are suppose to be.


#14

His NASA B-52 submission comes from here:

cybermodeler.com/aircraft/b- … lery.shtml


#15

Basically, most of “his” uploads aren’t his own, and have been taken from the Internet (a lot from Wikipedia). Is the FlightAware staff going to do anything about it? If they were my photos, and a site wouldn’t take immediate, corrective actions, I wouldn’t be pleased.


#16

We don’t know, but it doesn’t matter.

What we all DO know is that you didn’t take the pictures you’ve posted.

End of discussion.


#17

Maybe Bob really is the aviation equivalent of Dos Equis’ Most Interesting Man In The World, I don’t know. But I do know there are easier ways to check than google, one of them being TinEye dot com’s browser plugins.

And from the looks of it, FlightAware might want to check out the commercial API’s available from the same company… or something.


#18

Google Images search is simple. Just drag the stolen photo from FlightAware into the Google Images search box in another tab (images.google.com/), and it will show you the matching images.


#19

Yes, we can see that you know about copyright laws as you appear to go out of your way to only copy without attribution US government photos or Wikipedia photos that are in public use, a particularly egregious form of douche-baggery.


#20

How many more examples do you need before you take action? The first twenty images on his user page are all from public sources, either Wikimedia, other websites or US DoD.

The fact that he appears to post photos from non-copyrightable sources is irrelevant. There’s a time when you need to discern the difference between something meeting the letter of the law and still being morally repugnant. :unamused:

The PBY firefighter photo is attributed to Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Tucker M. Yates, USN, at the least you should curb Dunbar’s photo thuggery at failing to give proper attribution to our service men and women.