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Drone or modified Drones tracking?

Its been a long time since I posted any question?..Todays question is about Drones or modified Drone planes!?..

Like Flight aware or Flight radar24 that tracks most planes and other aircraft’s, are there any Drone monitoring or drone identifying sites, or tracking sites to identify or find out more about Drones?.. I am not talking about recreational neighbours drones, but these are professional Drones mostly run by state, surveillance gangs etc, military drones flying over residential areas??.

any site or any company that tracks or can identify drones?..

Thank you all for your time and answers in advance…!.

Drones are captured as well as long as they are equipped with a transponder.
There are a few premium devices having this, but most of them do not.

I am not aware of any sites doing something different.
Maybe FLARM can be used, but i don’t have knowledge about it.

You want to track military drones? As in UAV?
They will turn on the transponders only if they want to show their presence.
And flying at 12-15 km altitude is not really pinpointing “over residential areas”.

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Since this is a worldwide audience and you don’t say what country, just know that can be a sensitive subject in a lot of them.

In the US there are a lot of first responder groups (EMS, Fire, law) that are using higher-end consumer grade/cost drones. IFAK most do not have any ADS-B out capability. I suspect /hope in time they will. There’s a bit of a paradigm shift shift since the drones are typically below 400 feet, and often used in the 100 to 200 foot AGL range. These drones live in an AGL world.
Telemetry from the drones to the hand-held controller contains GPS information and the altitude relative to the take-off position obtains via pressure sensor. I’m working on systems that, can obtain the elevation of the take-off point and computer the AGL of the drone when an Internet connection is available. An ADS-B receiver is used to determine if nearby aircraft are close and low enough to be of concern. A key concept here is everything shifts to “AGL”. The goal is to provide a system that using the current “state of information” to provide emergency responders with information that they can use to conduct safe drone operations, in particular to avoid other aircraft. 30 seconds warning can provide enough time to get low or land. Everything is so low to the ground that a lot of things that work for non-drone aircraft don’t work. This includes receiving and transmitting any information.
AFAIK, there is no system in place for drones to report location information via the Internet to the FAA. This would be a very complex undertaking given the volume of data and the need for authentication of a submitter.
Drone tracking has its own quirks mostly relating to low altitude operations and the need to work in AGL. There is also a need to understand local obstructions (towers), height of trees in the area, and local terrain changes. There is a small ADS-B device available (ping200X) for larger drone platforms. The smaller platforms (such as the DJI Mavic series) don’t have anywhere to add on something like this.
There is a lot of economic pressure to use $2,000 to $10,000 drones that are considered high-end consumer . Add in requirements for periodic testing and re-certification and it seems clear that integrating drones into the National air space will have some unique challenges. I suspect the litmus test for the success or percentage of adoption of these systems may be as “simple” as “Can I get a small drone with high resolution thermal imaging and all the tracking for less than $8,000 ?”
I hope all this happens, there are groups working on it. Especially for emergency responders, integrating drones into the tool box available to them that can work with other aircraft in the area will be huge win.
All the usual AFAIK and IMHO caveats here…

There’s a Remote ID system that will be required in US by sometime in 2023. https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/remote_id/drone_pilots/ Most drones will not be allowed to use ads-b out because that system could not handle the additional number of drone ids on the system.

Look for a dumpdrone or similar on github within a year or two of that tracking system coming into use.