C-GBHZ Air Canada A319, 14 injured in turbulence...


#1

Flightaware ACA190

14 injured on Air Canada flight
Plane was on way from Victoria to Toronto when turbulence hit, injuring several people

CBC News
More than a dozen people were hurt on a flight that encountered turbulence and was forced to make an unscheduled stop in Calgary Thursday morning.

Fourteen people suffered minor injuries, mostly to the back and neck, said Calgary EMS spokesman Stuart Brideaux.

More than a dozen people from the flight were taken to hospital, say medical officials.
(CBC) “It happened really fast. One side of the plane went up sort of sideways and then came back down,” one passenger told CBC News.

She said she saw her friend, who was among those taken to the hospital, “fly up” and hit the ceiling.

Flight 190 was en route from Victoria to Toronto when it made an emergency landing in Calgary at 8:30 a.m. MT.

Crews responded with 19 ambulances after receiving reports of multiple injuries on board the Airbus A319.

Air Canada said the preliminary passenger list indicates the plane was carrying 83 passengers and five crew members.

The airline also said relatives of those on board who are seeking more information about the flight can get it by calling toll free at 1-800-961-7099.

With files from the Canadian Press

Update from CTV


#2

I checked the FlightAware log, and noticed a lot of bouncing up to 37000 ft… I makes no sense to me… Is this an error in the log? Otherwise those people really suffered!!!

Here is the URL for the log

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA190/history/20080110/1425Z/CYYJ/CYYC/tracklog


#3

I read the following:
"The pilots, she said, came on the intercom and said they were flying manually and that the computer had been knocked out. "

This is the url:

ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/plan … ngers_hurt


#4

“Some of the armrests on the aisle seat sides were bent 60 degrees from people holding on - that’s how extreme it was,”

WHAT A RIDE!!! THAT is why you wear your seatbelt while seated.

FlightAware, a U.S.-based company that tracks commercial air traffic, reported the plane appeared to hit rough air at 7:50 a.m. and changed altitude numerous times, apparently to find a smoother route before descending into Calgary.


#5

The tracklog appears to be correct, without the altitude errors we’ve seen for other flights.


#6

“Some of the armrests on the aisle seat sides were bent 60 degrees from people holding on - that’s how extreme it was,”

“WHAT A RIDE!!! THAT is why you wear your seatbelt while seated.”

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People think I’m nuts because I always wear mine throughout the flight. I learned my lesson early - flying home from England in 1974 on a tiny DC something (that are no longer allowed to fly across the Ocean) to get all customers back to Canada. We hit an air pocket and I flew up in the air. Fortunately for me I didn’t hit my head on the ceiling like the girl sleeping behind me! That was my second flight - my first flight alone. Loved it ever since! :slight_smile:

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#7

Am I hallucinating?

I saw that flight tracker, with multiple jumps between FL310 and FL370.
Suddenly, the page refreshed, and all the 37000 disappeared.

Or did I see that?


#8

Just now or a few hours ago?


#9

It was minutes before my first post.


#10

If you go to the first post, click Flightaware ACA190, then click on Track Log, you have the updated version.

If you go to the second post, and click on the link, is the original Track Log that shows up to 37000 feet.


#11

How can there be 2 different track logs for the same flight?

Can someone “cook the books”?


#12

Here is an article (split into two pieces thanks to my crappy scanner) from The Globe and Mail (Canadian newspaper) about ACA190. FlightAware is mentioned.

If anyone wants me to post the rest from the other pages, let me know.


#13

“Some of the armrests on the aisle seat sides were bent 60 degrees from people holding on - that’s how extreme it was,”


No freaking way.
The aisle seats have latches on them to lock them down, but can be unlatched quite simply. No way were they bent from people hanging on to them.

In related news, I hit some clear air turbulence last week descending through about 17,000ft hard enough to cause the toilet seat to end up in the middle of the aisle.
:open_mouth:


#14

crankyflier.com/2008/01/16/air-c … ular-bore/


#15

Just posting the story…

canada.com/victoriatimescolo … 0a&k=38168


#16

The scanned article above makes it sound like the captain disengaged the ‘fly by wire’ and manually flew the plane to Calgary. Can they do that?


#17

Here is another article
theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ … ional/home

that says a Seattle air traffic controller noticed that the paths of a 747 and the A319 were dangerously close, although apparently still outside regulated distances.


#18

Hrmmm… Just out of curiosity… Isn’t this Canadian airspace? Why would a Seattle controller be watching this area? I mean, if they are eastbound from Victoria, I can’t see them dipping that far south into US airspace.


#19

Check the map in postMRGoodwin’s above.


#20

Reports are consistent in placing the incident in Washington airspace about 120 kilometres south of Cranbrook, B.C.

Domestic trans-Canadian flights routinely fly over the US, sometimes as far South as Iowa.

The Seattle controller would have been working the “ZSE” ARTCC (not the tower or approach as might be implied). Here’s the sectors map for the US (Cranbrook lies more or less N. of the ID/MT border):

http://www.seaartcc.net/general/maps/images/conusmap.gif