I was heading to Hays Kansas last night and an American Airlines flight was issued DIR Memphis. They came back with-
We’ll need a vector, we don’t have GPS tonight. WTF? No FMS? no GPS? how is this possible?
I was heading to Hays Kansas last night and an American Airlines flight was issued DIR Memphis. They came back with-
We’ll need a vector, we don’t have GPS tonight. WTF? No FMS? no GPS? how is this possible?
An old MD80/A
Probably. There have been plenty of MD83s that flew into and out of KLAS that were /I… so it’s more than probable that they didn’t have FMS or GPS capability.
BL.
American Airlines?
tyketto:
azav8r:
An old MD80/A
Probably. There have been plenty of MD83s that flew into and out of KLAS that were /I… so it’s more than probable that they didn’t have FMS or GPS capability.
BL.
American Airlines?
Yep. I remember distinctly listening to an AAL MD80 asking for clearance at KLAS, and they mentioned that they were /I, and refused an RNAV clearance.
BL.
It can happen sometimes, the GNSS part of the FMS can be defered ( broken but the plane can still fly with VORs) or the FMS if the planes are single FMS is simply U/S.
Jay
Better whip out your sectional chart and start some serious pilotage!
WTF? No FMS? no GPS? how is this possible?
Maybe there were some actual pilots on board, not just button pushers.
…not just button pushers.
Hey… While I may somewhat resemble that remark, I also find it offensive.
I heard a Sky King (B732) coming into MSY and controller issued a direct Jaspo for 19, pilot said ‘negative RNAV’
and then they gave him a vector.
Did any 732 have factory RNAV?
I think WN and DL 732s flew with only VOR/DME/ADF, anybody else?
What about NW DC9? Have they been retrofitted?
NWA’s 752’s don’t have GPS either, though they do have some form of RNAV. I even had a DAL 763 that wasn’t GPS just the other night.
tyketto:
azav8r:
An old MD80/A
Probably. There have been plenty of MD83s that flew into and out of KLAS that were /I… so it’s more than probable that they didn’t have FMS or GPS capability.
BL.
American Airlines?
More likely Allegiant. They have a full fleet of MD8s and service LAS pretty heavily.
More likely Allegiant.
The OP said that it was AA.
…last night and an American Airlines flight…
I give myself a D for reading comprehension today. I will go stand in the corner now.