After completing high-speed taxi tests on Saturday, the first flight could be tomorrow.
Why, why, WHY am I somehow reminded of an Aviation Traders Carvair?
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Hawaii-Pacific-Air/Aviation-Traders-ATL-98/1645265/M/
I think the 747-8 passenger version looks better. The hump is longer.
Wow last time i seen one of those was 40 years ago…and it was in pieces. It had just crashed on NW 36th St a couple of miles north pf KMIA. 747 is a much prettier bird.
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Agreed! That airplane looks better than the 744. Not that I don’t like the other, it’s just odd looking. What’s in the hump on the cargo version, crew rest areas?
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Agreed, nothing like a good long hump…
Is there gonna be live video on Boeing.com?
Damn! You beat me to it!
Yep. Link here. Set to go at 10am PDT Monday morning.
That page also has a bonus link to FlightAware on the bottom right!
The webcast of the first flight has appeared with a message saying that the flight has been “Delayed Due to Weather.” Apparently the ceiling needs to be at 1500 feet and is not. The delay at this point is around 30 minutes from what I’m hearing.
Great! Thanks.
Prolly a little more time. Clouds just dont wanna pull up … And its 5000 or so (depending on pilots) and No heavy winds and a dry runway.
They are cranking the engines now. Shouldn’t be long. Est 12:30 taxi to runway.
Rotate at 12:39. Kinda short takeoff!
Nice FA logo and link to the first flight track on the front page.
Excellent FA plug!
General question about 747 BCFs.
The Boeing web site states: “The 747-400 Boeing Converted Freighter is available with seating for up to 19 people in the upper deck, an option found on no other converted freighter.”
Are -400BCFs flying with seats available to the flying public? Does the -8 have upper deck seating?
No one offers the upper deck seating on a freighter to the public. It’s for employees, handlers, etc.
Depends on how you look at it.
EVA and KLM (and probably other airlines) both operate combi 747s. Passengers can fly on the upper deck.
It can be argued that if you offered the upper deck seats to the public on a 747F it would become, by definition, a combi aircraft.
Doesn’t a combi require pax and cargo on the same deck? Otherwise every airliner would be a combi due to the hold.

Doesn’t a combi require pax and cargo on the same deck? Otherwise every airliner would be a combi due to the hold.
You got a point there. So I guess if a 747F operator sold the seats on the upper deck to passengers and the main deck was cargo then it couldn’t be called a combi.
Playing devil’s advocate, couldn’t a 747F with seats sold on the upper deck be considered a combi for the reason that cargo is carried on a deck that could accommodate passengers in other 747s?