Worth flying in the DC FRZ / Maryland Three?


#1

The 3 airports inside the FRZ, college park, Potomac, and Hyde Field, are quite small. I imagine due to the difficulties to get in and low business. Is it worth the vetting process on my next trip to DC to get a PIN? Are the airports outside the FRZ better destinations/amenities anyway? (regardless of how often I visit - its only 20 min difference)

Also, why is KDCA left out of all the documentation? Can a private pilot not fly there? Everything in the FRZ refers to the “Maryland Three”, leaving off the 4th, KDCA. Not my first choice in a destination as a hobby flier, but certainly very close.

Thanks for any feedback.


#2

For the most part, no. You have to go through the aforementioned vetting process, PLUS jump through additional hoops.

When they reopened the airport to general aviation in 2005, they placed the following restrictions:

Flights can arrive from one of only one dozen specially selected “gateway” airports, all within the continental United States, and only 48 flights will be allowed to arrive or depart each day. With approximately 660 flights coming and going from Reagan National each week in 2001 before general aviation was suspended, the new limit will mean nearly a 50 percent reduction in volume, assuming it operates at full capacity.

The biggest change may be that all planes now are required to fly with an armed security officer on board. The Transportation Security Administration must certify those officers, all of whom must receive special training and be either current or former U.S. law enforcement professionals.

All passengers will be subject to unusually thorough background checks, including fingerprint and criminal checks. In order to facilitate the scrutiny, passenger manifests must be submitted to the Transportation Security Administration at least 24 hours in advance.

The passenger and crew checks are even more exacting, and no last-minute additions or changes to the passenger lists will be allowed.

allbusiness.com/transportati … 454-1.html

As far as I know, nothing has changed since then.

So, for you to land there, is it worth it? I’m guessing not since most business jets don’t even bother to go there. When “The Big Three” flew to DC for their congressional bail-out hearings, they flew into Dulles.


#3

Got to thinkin’ - I know there’s a GA FBO at National… I’ll bet they’re not very busy! Figured it’d be much like a Maytag Repair facility or something similar.

Anyway, I found some more info re: flying into DCA:

KDCA Signature Flight Support Web page:
signatureflight.com/Locatio … px?Loc=DCA

General Aviation flights into DCA are restricted to Waiver or DC Access Standard Security Program (DASSP) flights. In collaboration with TSA, Signature has close to 50% of its US FBOs approved as gateways into DCA. In addition, Signature Flight Support assists operators with submitting their DASSP applications as well as other FBO operators with their application and certification process. These valuable, complimentary services are available by contacting Mary Miller at Signature’s DCA location at +1 703 417 3542

TSA’s DCA Access Standard Security Program (DASSP)
tsa.gov/what_we_do/tsnm/gene … shtm#dassp


#4

For DCA one needs to hire a TSA-approved Armed Guard to be a passenger on the private flight (in addition to the other approvals required on that link that NeedleNose posted).

There’s a great thread over on the PoA board about approval and flying in the FRZ: http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1040


#5

Even as a Lifeguard I we were not allowed to land at DCA


#6

Jason, you back in Florida? Where?


#7

I’m in a GALX/G200 now. Back living in Fort Lauderdale. Working for Sky Limo/LMO.

How ya been? made any trips down south lately?


#8

If you still have my email can you give me your email address or by PM


#9

Flyboy, are you on 219? Does LMO still have the 134 G200?


#10

No more 132- We have 219AX and LMO also sells trips for N35BP (I’m on both certs and fly them both)