Is the Boeing 747 flown anywhere internally in the US


#1

Is the 747 flown for passenger service internally in the USA?


#2

I think we had an earlier thread on this, but I can’t find it at the moment.
Anyway, the answer is yes, there are quite a few regular B747 passenger flights within the continental US.


 AAR284  | B744         | KLAX   | KSFO
 AAR298  | B744         | KORD   | KJFK
 BAW268  | B744         | KLAX   | KMSS
 BAW3578 | B744         | KORD   | KIAH
 CAL5117 | B744         | KLAX   | KSFO
 CAL5205 | B744         | KBNA   | KLAX
 CAL5209 | B744         | KBNA   | KORD
 CAL5211 | B744         | KBNA   | KDFW
 CAL5213 | B744         | KBNA   | KIAH
 CAL5251 | B744         | KDFW   | KLAX
 CAL5255 | B744         | KDFW   | KSFO
 CAL5315 | B744         | KJFK   | KORD
 CAL5385 | B744         | KMIA   | KATL
 CCA1052 | B744         | KJFK   | KORD
 CCA1054 | B744         | KDFW   | KORD
 CCA1058 | B744         | KLAX   | KPDX
 CCA1066 | B744         | KJFK   | KORD
 CPA83   | B744         | KJFK   | KORD
 CPA85   | B744         | KJFK   | KORD
 CPA91   | B744         | KATL   | KDFW
 CPA91   | B744         | KDFW   | KATL
 CPA97   | B744         | KLAX   | KSFO
 EVA11   | B744         | KLAX   | KSEA
 EVA15   | B744         | KLAX   | KSEA
 EVA31   | B744         | KEWR   | KSEA
 EVA32   | B744         | KSEA   | KEWR
 JAL6126 | B744         | KLAX   | KJFK
 JAL8002 | B744         | KLAX   | KLAS
 JAL8005 | B744         | KJFK   | KFAI
 KAL213  | B744         | KLAX   | KSFO
 KAL215  | B744         | KSFO   | KSEA
 KAL217  | B744         | KLAX   | KSEA
 KAL239  | B744         | KMIA   | KDFW
 KAL245  | B744         | KATL   | KSEA
 KAL8243 | B744         | KATL   | KDFW
 NWA9840 | B744         | KDTW   | KLAX
 NWA9840 | B744         | KDTW   | KMCO
 NWA9841 | B744         | KMSN   | KDTW
 NWA9980 | B744         | KLAX   | KDTW
 NWA9980 | B744         | KMCO   | KMSN
 QFA107  | B744         | KLAX   | KJFK
 QFA108  | B744         | KJFK   | KLAX
 QFA108D | B744         | KJFK   | KLAX
 QFA7554 | B744         | KJFK   | KORD
 QFA7558 | B744         | KJFK   | KORD
 SVA34   | B744         | KIAD   | KJFK
 SVA35   | B744         | KJFK   | KIAD
 UAL253  | B744         | KORD   | KDEN
 UAL79   | B744         | KORD   | KSFO
 UAL908J | B744         | KDEN   | KORD
 UAL936  | B744         | KSFO   | KIAD
 UAL937  | B744         | KIAD   | KSFO
 UAL9944 | B744         | KAMA   | KSFO

I think all of these are passenger rather than cargo, but a few may have slipped in. Note that you can’t buy a ticket for just the domestic leg of a flight operated by a foreign carrier.


#3

If I read this correctly it says Boeing 744s.


#4

Which is code for a 747-400 model.

There’s no such thing as a Boeing 744.


#5

…(evidently erroneous) that the 747 was only used for international flights, flights to Hawaii or for cargo operations.


#6

Your opinion is not as erroneous as you might think at first.

Most of the passenger 747s you’ll see flying between US cities are ultimately either arriving from or departing to overseas locations and are making stops enroute.

Example, CAL5255 ex. DFW to SFO continues on to RCTP, Taiwan.


#7

The majority, if not all, of the CAL flights are cargo.

Many of the KAL flights are cargo.

Some of the CCA flights are cargo or combi (i.e. pax and cargo on the main deck)

The UAL and NWA flights with flight numbers in the 9000’s cannot be considered regular passenger flights because they are charters.

QFA 7554/7558 are cargo flights.

UAL936/937 are normally operated by 767’s and 777’s. The 747 can’t be considered a regular operation on this flight.

UAL908J is usually operated by 777’s.


#8

Actually, there’s only one domestic passenger 747 flight to Hawaii:


UAL75   | B744         | KSFO   | PHNL


#9

Hate to be picky again but UAL75 isn’t usually scheduled as a 747 but has a 767. Same thing for the other direction: UAL72


#10

If you want to be picky, neither the OP nor I ever mentioned scheduled.


#11

Sorry - my bad.


#12

I used to fly on NWA 744’s between DTW and ORD. They always upgraded me to first or biz so it was a really nice, quiet and quick flight.

Does an internal USA flight include Alaska and Hawaii?


#13

Uh, yea! Last time I checked Alaska and Hawaii were still part of the United States.


#14

It’s unclear whether the initial poster meant contiguous US, or meant to include AK and HI.


#15

I hadn’t actually thought of Alaska, and I thought that Hawaii would probably rate the capacity of a 747 during peak tourist season. It’s just because the local regional airport is being extended/upgraded to handle 737 business class aircraft & somehow, in some peoples’ minds, 737 became equated to 747. I made the statement that I didn’t think the 747 flew passenger service in the USA, only to international destinations. Having stuck my neck out to be cut off, I figured I had better check with people more knowledgeable than myself.


#16

I hadn’t actually thought of Alaska, and I thought that Hawaii would probably rate the capacity of a 747 during peak tourist season. It’s just because the local regional airport is being extended/upgraded to handle 737 business class aircraft & somehow, in some peoples’ minds, 737 became equated to 747. I made the statement that I didn’t think the 747 flew passenger service in the USA, only to international destinations. Having stuck my neck out to be cut off, I figured I had better check with people more knowledgeable than myself.

I guess I should have worded my statement that 747s aren’t used on passenger routes where both terminals are within the lower 48.


#17

Had a great chuckle when I read the list of domestic 747 flights. The 3rd flight on the list, British Airways 268, is shown as LAX to KMSS - Massena, NY. I don’t know if any of you have ever been to KMSS, but believe me, there are NO 747s there. 2 or 3 Beech 1900s a day, but no 747s. Interestingly, BA 268 is the infamous flight from LAX to London which recently had an engine failure on departure from LAX and CONTINUED(!!!) on 3 engines, diverting to Manchester, England.


#18

Maybe 747 at Massena NY KMSS is part of a new way to smuggle cigarettes to Cornwall ON CYCC. :wink:

flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW2 … /KLAX/EGLL

looks like KMSS ( MSS ) is just one of the route waypoints.


#19

Yeah, I noticed that MSS is the last waypoint in the US, and that’s probably right where Boston would hand you off to Canadian ATC. But I am curious why it showed BA268 with a KMSS destination. I’ll be sure to watch out for the 747 on final next time I’m in KMSS.


#20

Make for a great photo op. coming out over Lake St. Francis with Adirondack Mountains in the background.

Like you said, Massena would need a slight runway extention. :slight_smile: