I will say, we do have to be alert to suspicious people loitering on or around airports. Looking at that photo, is that an airplane buff out planespotting, or someone doing some research ahead of doing something bad? We do not ban planespotting, but we are aware of it, and will question someone we do not know.
Questioning isnāt a bad thingā¦ but they are implying to the general public that someone who planespots is a terrorist, and to report them. Pretty much, guilty until proven innocent.
I would surely hate it if Iām at the spotting area at KLAS during a windy day (like yesterday), and didnāt want dust blowing into my eyes while Iām taking a shot of an Illinois One or Florida One, only to be accosted by TSA and airport officials because some clueless, blissfully naive Joe Public traveler thinks that Iām going to terrorize travelers, because aviation and planespotting is a hobby of mine.
We shouldnāt have to prove ourselves innocent when they havenāt seen anything to report us guilty of doing.
If you watched the video that is included in this campaign, the scenario was about ensuring the gate closes to prevent unwanted guests from entering. It just happens that the āguestā in that scenario has a camera. They also included scenarios on suspicious students (donāt want to learn to land?) and people snooping around corporate aircraft.
Thats the impression I got when I saw that! plus it actually made me sick!
Itās already hard enough to deal with KSAT airport police with their made up rules and loose interpations of actual laws!
It will be interesting now that a public sidewalk is being constructed in front of Landmark aviation along the perimeter fence, an area that has been off limitsā¦ might have to contact a civil rights attorney
Edit, Daveysims can you post a link to that video? what a coincedence the guest has a camera.
If thats all that happened, Iād be happy to do it! but everytime they write a report or run my DL#, that stays there on database, so now I am a āPIPā
a Person of Interest to Police, had a city officer show me on his computer after he commented Do you get pulled over a lot? Not to mention threats of possible arrest.
you donāt deserve liberty if you condone this crap. last time i checked there was no need for citizens to show their papers if they werenāt doing anything wrong. taking pictures at an airport is not wrong. some airports actually encourage it by having dedicated spotting areas.
Spotting areas are fine, but fence hanging is weird to me. I just donāt think itās a big deal to have to show some ID if you want to hang around an airport fence. Give them an inch and theyāll take a mile. What about approaching security and just telling them, āHi, Iām Jack Toff, would you mind if I snap a few shots over by the fenceāā¦an ounce of prevention.
Another thing, these pictures end up on the interwebs without the permission of the aircraft owners in most cases. The owners name is often associated with the photo, compromising their security. What about their right to privacy? These so called photographers get mighty touchy when someone reposts their āartā, but did they ask the owners of the planes if it was ok to display pictures of them?
JMHO.
Some of my better pictures of aircraft have been taken through or over a fence.
legally you cannot expect privacy in a public place. Pictures can be taken at will of anybody or anything. Itās not always wise such as taking a picture of a big dude who doesnt want his picture taken.
Not always true. It is a common misconception that previous terrorists were some type of highly trained professional. They might have access to money and resources, but many are not that smart. Even the 9/11 attackers had already raised suspicions by many, just they didnāt get stopped in time. That is what this new TSA campaign is about, to be alert for anything that seems out of the ordinary, anyone acting suspicious.
Like being at an airport with a camera you mean ?
The TSA doesnāt have a clue about combatting terrorism, only those of limited intellect would give their pronouncements any credence.
I must have missed the bit where they were found sticking 300mm lenses through the fence.
Believe me, I donāt always agree with the TSA, but as I have said, the campaign is about being alert to your surroundings, with watching for suspicious people hanging around the airport that maybe donāt belong. There is a two minute video that has several scenarios. The image of the photographer was taken from a scenario involving ensuring the gate closes behind you, notice the guy is standing right next to the gate. It does not say to ban cameras or anything of the sort. You are honestly taking the ad out of context.
And some of the clues about the 9/11 hijackers, they received flight training, but were not concerned about landing, they were seen one week earlier on a dry run, and one was even bragging to some co workers that he was going to do something. Just think if someone had picked up on that before the attack happened. That is all the campaign is about, if you see something odd, question it. Donāt just ignore it. Whether you like it or not, aviation is a target, and airport security is here to stay. Sorry if it inconveniences you while taking a picture.