Now this is an interesting flight pattern


#1

This is a Cessna 441 Conquest N16NW (A0F096) that departed from KPIE. It appears to be a mapping/photography pattern.

The icon is hard to see. It is the ADS-B plane just to the east of the “p” in “Tampa”, Left wing covering the “a”.

His altitude was 7500 ft.

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B5eBCoqedqaxQzEwMU0ycEx0OFU


Interesting flight tracks - stacking?
#2

Nice find!

If you look at the past flights, you can see it has done these kinds of patterns over various cities around the country [flight]N16NW[/flight]


#3

I have seen the FBI surveillance Cessna 182 around NYC recently.
Jersey City a few weeks ago then recently Brooklyn.
It just orbits at around 5500ft for hours at a time.
The track looks like my kids scribbling around and around with a pen.


#4

I have seen the FBI surveillance Cessna 182 around NYC recently.
Jersey City a few weeks ago then recently Brooklyn.
It just orbits at around 5500ft for hours at a time.
The track looks like my kids scribbling around and around with a pen.

That is happening east of Tampa as well. As a matter of fact, I was looking to see if the FBI was there again today when I happened upon the plane in the picture.

I’ve seen the FBI stay in the circular pattern for more than 4 hours at a time. I hope they didn’t bring along a Thermos of coffee.


#5

I think it was 4-5 hours last time.
I hope they have porta-John or Lady Jane adapter.

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sportys.com/pilotshop/lady-j … rinal.html


#6

Seems to like Coney Island. Chillin there all day today. :smiley:


#7

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/feds-motherfng-stingrays-motherfng-planes/ FBI stingray?


#8

Caught similar flight pattern here in NY! Pattern is a little broken up because he was right on the edge of my range at 4000ft, but it’s pretty clear:

The aircraft is registered to “Quantum Spatial” Definitely some sort of mapping. He was flying over westchester airport - it’s worth noting among the solutions they offer is precision obstruction mapping for airport approaches.

quantumspatial.com/why-quantum- … what-we-do

In contrast, The “Stingray” planes - or whatever they’re doing just fly in circles over and over and over and over.


#9

Is wonder if they were surveying for a new LPV approach?
Did they fly over an airport? The map is not detailed enough for me to see.


#10

Yeah - I mentioned it in there (but it’s kind of buried by the image.

They were flying directly over Westchester Airport “KHPN”, parallel to runway 16/34.

Here’s a side by side with a cleaner map (slightly enlarged) so you can see the airport and the track they were flying.

Although if you look at the playback, he flew far more to the east of the airport than the west of it, so I wonder.

flightradar24.com/data/airp … d/#8f7ae4b

As I understand it, those kind of approaches need to be routinely checked for obstacles, such as trees growing into the glideslope, etc. So it might not be new.


#11

I see these guys a bunch.

Keystone Aerial Surveys, Inc.
www.kasurveys.com


#12

The feds are back today.
circling the Verrazanno in N981MR


#13

All the FBI/DOJ flights I have tracked have been circle after circle for literally hours on end over a centralized point not straight lines in and out. I am thinking I have to agree that the ones doing the back and forth are mapping things as mentioned earlier.


#14

Like this one? …


#15

Yep. The Feds like circles :slight_smile: . Here is Homeland Security over the Rose Parade this year.

–Steve


#16

Yep those be the ones.


#17

Like a ball of tangled yarn…


#18

If that was a government flight I think they need to do a few more random drug tests than they currently do. The boys out of Ohio are doing near perfect circles like mighty3507 posted for hours on end. Wish I had some of the tracks I saw to post…


#19

and again today. they seem to like vzb/gwb area and the approaches to the holland/lincoln.

My bet would be aerial radiation detection - at least the ones near the crossings? Which, if true, would be a valuable mission - though after a relatively few number of flights wouldn’t it be cheaper to mount a detector permanently or semipermanently on the ground in these locations?

I doubt we’ll ever know what the purpose really is … and frankly I’m worried about getting a stern talking to by a charcoal-suit type for even discussing these :open_mouth:


#20

It is more likely a stinger. Mobile phone catching.

I am sure the PA have detectors in the approaches.

I wonder if they get dizzy going in circles for hours at a time.