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FlightAware's DATA Sources

#1

On FlightAware’s web page it is quoted the data sources.


I noticed one of the sources is VHF and SATCOM ACARS datalink. Who provides the ACARS data source? I am being a bit nosey but I was wondering why there is not a FlightAware ACARS feeder option supported by the Pi Aware?

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#2

Maybe it is that ACARS uses a much lower frequency than ADS-B and it would be difficult to implement such a feeding feature in PiAware.

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#3

Our ACARS is from various ACARS service providers serving the commercial aviation and business aviation markets, rather than crowd sourcing it.

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#4

mduell,
Thanks for the reply. Would it ever be consider a option for us who provide feeds with a Pi Aware in the future to provide ACARS and possibly VDL-mode 2 data input? Maybe a separate feeder from a second Pi?

#5

No, we’re not planning to support crowdsourced ACARS.

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#6

HF-ACARS, or HFDL, would be nicer, I think.

The problem is, any system other the ADS-B would attract a lot less interest.

A cost benefit study would certainly rule out all other modes but ADS-B.

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#7

Now from my point of view that having some “other” redundancies could be nice to have, plus I enjoy doing it so with what I can provide. I figured that ACARS, VDL-2 or HFDL would be great to also use as data providers.

#8

I looked at ACARS a few years ago and didn’t find anything that I thought was interesting.

I just fired it up again and here is part of the log of messages. Is there something of interest here that I am missing?

RX ID: 10 Freq: 131.550 MHz
Mode: 2 (50), Label: H1 (Message to/from terminal)
Block ID: 7 (55), Msg No: D84D

Aircraft reg: VH-VXD, Flight ID: QF0626
Vendor: Boeing, Type: B737-838 Wing (B738), cn: 29552, Carrier: QF, Remark: Qantas
Airline: Qantas

#DFB8.010.685 98.06
97.501911-00001100 24629 24628 98.41 98.44-7-7++++++’‘1 -31.3 -8.310
.689 97.84 97.472411-00001100 24778 24777 98.50 98.50-7-6++++++’'1 -3
1.5 -8.510.690 98.09 97.472911-00001100 24915

[2019-05-15 06:35:28.210]

RX ID: 9 Freq: 131.550 MHz
Mode: 2 (50), Label: H1 (Message to/from terminal)
Block ID: 5 (53), Msg No: D84B

Aircraft reg: VH-VXD, Flight ID: QF0626
Vendor: Boeing, Type: B737-838 Wing (B738), cn: 29552, Carrier: QF, Remark: Qantas
Airline: Qantas

#DFB6.
810.676 98.13 97.535411-00001100 23917 23916 98.47 98.47-6-7++++++’‘1
-29.5 -7.310.678 98.00 97.535911-00001100 24061 24060 98.41 98.41-6
-7++++++’'1 -29.8 -7.310.682 98.03 97.500411-00001100 24217

[2019-05-15 06:35:19.361]

RX ID: 8 Freq: 131.550 MHz
Mode: 2 (50), Label: H1 (Message to/from terminal)
Block ID: 4 (52), Msg No: D84A

Aircraft reg: VH-VXD, Flight ID: QF0626
Vendor: Boeing, Type: B737-838 Wing (B738), cn: 29552, Carrier: QF, Remark: Qantas
Airline: Qantas

#DFB086A81080000811505063323541064’’’‘1YMMLYBBNCLMB000000000000RBTL441
1-00001100 23620 23619 98.53 98.47-7-7++++++’‘1 -28.8 -6.310.675 97.
97 97.564911-00001100 23773 23772 98.47 98.47-7-6++++++’'1 -29.0 -

[2019-05-15 06:35:15.666]

RX ID: 7 Freq: 131.550 MHz
Mode: 2 (50), Label: H1 (Message to/from terminal)
Block ID: 4 (52), Msg No: D81C

Aircraft reg: VH-VWY, Flight ID: JQ0444
Type: Airbus A321, cn: 1408, Carrier: JST
Airline: JetStar Airways

#DFB1096,083,00,026,43,145,05139,N247/T2099,084,00,018,41,180,05141,N248/V103D04,00208,08000,241,114,N054/V203D04,00208,08000,234,115,N058/V3004,004,017/V4001,004,196/X102837,N000,

[2019-05-15 06:35:10.949]

RX ID: 6 Freq: 131.550 MHz
Mode: 2 (50), Label: H1 (Message to/from terminal)
Block ID: 2 (50), Msg No: D81A

Aircraft reg: VH-VWY, Flight ID: JQ0444
Type: Airbus A321, cn: 1408, Carrier: JST
Airline: JetStar Airways

#DFBA02/A32102,1,1/CCVH-VWY,MAY15,023653,YBCS,YMML,0947/C106,26213,5000,51,0010,0,0100,51,X/CEN248,34933,262,773,7425,287,I61010/CNN244,35015,263,777,7425,287/EC012260,02097,01250,

[2019-05-15 06:35:03.196]

RX ID: 5 Freq: 131.550 MHz
Mode: 2 (50), Label: H1 (Message to/from terminal)
Block ID: 5 (53), Msg No: D19H

Aircraft reg: 4R-ALP, Flight ID: UL0605

#DFB,10026,0.582,0,80
X3,1.550,003.3,20007,0.691,0,80
X4,1.575,-04.0,25012,0.756,0,80:

[2019-05-15 06:34:58.880]

RX ID: 4 Freq: 131.550 MHz
Mode: 2 (50), Label: H1 (Message to/from terminal)
Block ID: 4 (52), Msg No: D19G

Aircraft reg: 4R-ALP, Flight ID: UL0605

#DFB89,130.8,028.8,047.3,048,0507,0449
T4,030,51,158,068,091,129.9,027.9,047.0,048,0506,0440
V3,0.15,0.13,0.06,047,0.23,014.9
V4,0.08,0.08,0.10,180,0.17,014.8
X1,1.415,014.0,01342,0.278,0,80
X2,1.461,018.8

[2019-05-15 06:34:55.589]

RX ID: 3 Freq: 131.550 MHz
Mode: 2 (50), Label: H1 (Message to/from terminal)
Block ID: 3 (51), Msg No: D19F

Aircraft reg: 4R-ALP, Flight ID: UL0605

#DFB
N4,1.550,1.550,1.550,1.594,086.00,093.6,093.8,0727,14.620
S3,06568,09.31,003.4,070.5,240.1,308.2,545.4,06.6,072.1,072.1
S4,06645,09.31,003.4,070.7,240.9,308.6,545.6,06.3,072.5,072.5
T3,028,50,159,065,0

[2019-05-15 06:34:52.114]

RX ID: 2 Freq: 131.550 MHz
Mode: 2 (50), Label: H1 (Message to/from terminal)
Block ID: 2 (50), Msg No: D19E

Aircraft reg: 4R-ALP, Flight ID: UL0605

#DFB9,0.42,014.5,052,1,00
C9,06.29.09,003.3,19954,0.691,111,1.39,111,10,0,01,111,1.39,X
C0,06.29.09,003.3,19954,0.691,111,1.39,111,10,0,01,111,1.39,X
N3,1.550,1.550,1.550,1.594,086.06,093.3,093.9,0729,14.563

[2019-05-15 06:34:48.421]

RX ID: 1 Freq: 131.550 MHz
Mode: 2 (50), Label: H1 (Message to/from terminal)
Block ID: 0 (48), Msg No: D19C

Aircraft reg: 4R-ALP, Flight ID: UL0605

#DFB76,1.476,1.584,083.30,093.0,094.4,0734,23.060
N2,1.476,1.476,1.476,1.585,083.26,093.3,094.1,0732,23.155
S1,09968,15.49,017.8,108.7,250.0,463.7,560.3,09.1,080.0,080.0
S2,09936,15.49,017.8,108.8,251.5,463.

[2019-05-15 06:34:38.619]

RX ID: 0 Freq: 131.550 MHz
Mode: 2 (50), Label: H1 (Message to/from terminal)
Block ID: 9 (57), Msg No: D19B

Aircraft reg: 4R-ALP, Flight ID: UL0605

#DFB.7,00111,0.286,111
C5,042630,18153,20714,03343,00103,00015,00000,00802,16066
C6,042631,18153,10743,03343,00103,00016,00000,00802,36066
C7,01,00,00,00,01,00,00,00
C8,01,00,00,00,01,00,00,00
N1,1.476,1.4

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