I gave you your respect sir, Thank you as well!! I do honestly sit back and feel like I learn things on here from time to time. For me working for FX, like I said in my initial comments…it hurts. We have black ribbons on our crew waiting room here at TPA…it just sucks. I pray for their famlies.
65km/hr equates to about 35kts/hr. A strong wind, but certainly nothing too unusual or taxing. Not saying it wasn’t a factor. Just don’t think it was as windy as some are making it out to be. I believe max crosswind component for the MD-11 is around 24 kts
Thanks. That has to be the best first post in the history of this site.
Thanks. That has to be the best first post in the history of this site.
Agreed! 
Thank you for answering all my questions and then going over the top with info! Very rewarding to get good hard info instead of flames. Thanks again HeavyGuy- and welcome to the forums!
Of course mine are a close second. 
Thank you for information, I watched the video of landing few times, the landing looks very normal, until the front wheel comes down so hard that nose bounce back up causing the plane to take off just few feet off the runway then the plane stalls and drops with its all weight on its wheels and bounce off the runway again but this time it did not come down straight but rolled to its left and the left wing hit the ground and caught on fire. My question is that possible that elevators lost their effectiveness while the nose gear was not lowered yet, seconly is it possible the that the plane was so tail heavy that caused the nose bounce, and finally if the plane was loaded incorrectly the sensors would have warned the pilots, so why they consent to fly the plane. Thanks
airliners.net/photo/FedEx-Ex … as-MD-11(F/1506832/M/
WOW what are the odds. Looks normal on takeoff.
I have to take issue with the concept that the a/c could have been loaded incorrectly. As I said in an earlier posting there is universial training on how we load our a/c. There is NO WAY in hell the a/c would even push back let alone get airbourne if there was a loading error. TRUST me we will offload an entire a/c to verify a weight a container number…UNLESS they flat out weigh up containers incorrectly which again is doubtful due to scale checks, the load IMHO had NOTHING to do with this crash. Knowing the press they would have had that out on the net / air by now if that were true.
No auto-ground spoilers? I’m thinking the bounce wouldn’t have happened if they were armed. RIP to the crew…
As far as crosswinds at Kai Tak, here’s an Alitalia MD-11 missing the centerline one of those days…
They would’ve been armed and their deployment is no absolute of keeping the aircraft planted on the ground. Once the aircraft became airborne again they would’ve retracted as commanded by the squat switches and associated system logic.
Looks like maybe the pilot wasn’t correcting enough for excessive yaw caused by the left engine shutting down due to PED Interference? 
WOW what a video 
Just happened to find this and wanted to share it:
sad story
Did anyone know the crew? There is a guy that used to post on some of my gun forums that flew to that area for FedEx and posted great photos from his travels.
We haven’t heard from him since before the crash and we don’t know his real name.
He went by Jungle on our forums.
Thanks for any help.
I found out yesterday it wasn’t my guy. Thanks
First, I wish to extend my best wishes to the families of the crew and those that support them. All of us that fly or have done so are an extended family.
I am not a pilot but spent my crew life 3/100ths of a second working behind them and most recently supporting the USAF KC-10 Aircrew Training program. Many years ago I had the opportunity to hand fly the KC-135A fairly frequently and was amazed at how responsive it was for it’s size - once off the ground or light weight. Most recently I had many opportunities to fly the KC-10 WST (simulator) and the difference between the “MD-10” and the “B-707” was vast. Bank angles and control response so much more slow and cumbersome. Watching that one video of the MD-11 on a X-Wind approach to Narita said some mighty good things about the pilot flying it. Kai Tak was the worst I have been into and some of the videos of heavies going in there and making it are unbelievable.
Last, FA keeps me occupied with the good information and commentary I seek with very few of the flamers you encounter in other forums. Thanks to all.
This morning we got our monthly dose of kool-aide and told how much the company had improved year over year. I am wondering, has there been any update in this investigation? I just spent some time on Google looking at things that have been there since the crash happened. The lack ribbons stilll hang by our crew lounge, and I for one have not forgot about this. I’m surer the families of the 2 crew have not either. 
You get Kool-Aide?!? We get our dose in suppository form! Not that I’m complaining
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It’s only been 6 weeks but you would hope there would be some notes but not even here at ASN … something with saving face, somewhere?