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Air New Zealand and Qantas in New York

Air New Zealand will be terminating London route come 2020. New York will be added to the route. Qantas will soon commence New York.

Thinking outside the box: do you think Qantas and Air New Zealand can benefit from Washington D.C and Atlanta?

https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/press-release-2019-new-era-airnz-international-network

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Is there demand for such routing?

I have been flying Qantas from NYC since 2002.

Not non-stop. The flights are through flights via LAX

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The subject is misleading.

I hope to take a non-stop flight when I go back to Aus next year. I have been wanting one for years.
It once took me 40 hours and 5 layovers to get from Sydney to Boston.

Depending on the pax demand, but I can’t tell if there are going to serve those route…

That is interesting with 5 layovers. I take that is during the BOAC era?

In 1981 I flew Boston to Melbourne in 38 hours.

Boston-LAX-Papeete-Auckland-Sydney-Melbourne.

It was mainly on a Pan Am B747 with 12 First class seats upstairs. No lie flat beds.

S.

That is interesting. I do have to say it’s strange that they did not put you on a Qantas flight from Los Angeles. If my memory serves me right all QF US to Australia have to make a fuel stop in Honolulu even on a B747.

The direct LAX-SYD flights came in the 1990s.

My track was Sydney, Honolulu, LAX, Denver, JFK then Boston. LAX was an 8 hour layover. It was the cheapest flight I could get, $AU2000, one way. I can get a return flight with one stop for less than that now.

Qantas has been promising these direct JFK-SYD flights for years. They were waiting for the technology to catch up. I hope the schedule is good for minimizing jetlag. Going JFK to Syd should be OK. Leave at night, sleep if you can and arrive in the morning. Coming back has always been the killer for me. I could never stay awake on the LAX to JFK leg and that messed me up for days.

Are you speaking now or then?

It is interesting that you ask that question, how much has changed during the Pan Am era! I humbly believe with the 787 it can be a game changer for Qantas and Air New Zealand to consider Atlanta and Washington D.C. “For the good of mankind” should transit business shall be banished…Seriously, if a passenger travelling from Lagos to Auckland can now be realised via Dulles Airport, since Air NZ is a Star Alliance Partner and so is South African Airways.

How much has changed during the Pan Am era! I humbly believe with the 787 it can be a game changer for Qantas and Air New Zealand to consider Atlanta and Washington D.C. “For the good of mankind” should transit business be banished…Seriously, if a passenger travelling from Lagos to Auckland can now be realised via Dulles Airport, since Air NZ is a Star Alliance Partner and so is South African Airways. All I am saying, I believe in diversity. And such diversity can be realised without the current ME3 hegemony.