4 Killed in Small Plane Crash in Calif.


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4 Killed in Small Plane Crash in Calif.

CARLSBAD, Calif. Federal officials say four people were killed when a twin-engine plane skidded off an airport runway Tuesday and burst into flames.

The jet-engined Cessna 560 was landing at McClellan-Palomar Airport on a flight from Hailey, Idaho, when it skidded off the end of a runway at about 6:40 a.m., said Mike Fergus, a Federal Aviation Administration spokesman in Seattle.

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flightaware.com/live/flight/N86CE

cnn.com/2006/US/01/24/plane. … index.html


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I noticed in the flight log that the plane’s speed increased on the last return. Living in the area, I have heard news reports from some local residents who have said that the plane seemed to be coming in pretty fast. Does anyone know if ~200 kts. is fast for a Cessna Citation?


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This was a Citation V although I know the Citation II has a Vref around 100 (with flaps) depending on circumstances.


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A typical approach speed for a Citation 560 is about 108 knots (link).


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That’s fast for any corporate jet. Talking Vref, not climb, cruise, or descent.


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With Santa Ana winds that day I figured he carried some speed for that… But also had heard the pax had a house in North County area so the pilot should have been familiar with the airport as well.


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NTSB Preliminary Report


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Somewhere today I saw a prelim on this crash and it referenced FlightAware as ‘reporting’ the high groundspeed prior to the crash…


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The San Diego Union Tribune and then the Associated Press (followed by countless news organizations) have been citing FlightAware as a source on the aircraft’s groundspeed. Of course, the speed that we report is not the “touchdown speed” as it is being reported.


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Then why doesn’t someone clarify it for these people that report it wrong? Not good for the people involved. Thanks


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Because the newspapers and other media aren’t interested in getting their facts straight when it comes to aviation (and a lot of other stuff, for that metter).