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Listening to air traffic

Has anyone tried to listen to the air traffic with a radio receiver? If so, what are you using?

I did a few times, but i was using one of the internet webpages which are offering it.
Here in germany listening to it is not allowed, therefore no stations around me.

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Hello Horst,

I used this one Top 50 Air Traffic Control Audio Streams | LiveATC.net.

There are also special airtraffic scanners. Uniden has good reviews.
https://uniden.com/collections/scanners

These are not too expensive Uniden BC355N and Uniden BC365CRS

Please keep in mind that in some countries you are not allowed tp listen to airtraffic.

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Edit: … not sure how i got that idea then … stupid laws are stupid but still the law.
(Incorrect old statement: That’s incorrect, you are allowed to listen but aren’t allowed to distribute / broadcast it.)
In the UK you aren’t allowed to listen :slight_smile:

If you have a spare SDR and make yourself a dipole for about 128 MHz it’s not too hard to tune SDR# to the right frequency and set amplitude modulation.

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really?
§ 89 in combination with §148 of TKG is telling me something different:

§ 89 Abhörverbot, Geheimhaltungspflicht der Betreiber von Empfangsanlagen

Mit einer Funkanlage dürfen nur Nachrichten, die für den Betreiber der Funkanlage, Funkamateure im Sinne des Gesetzes über den Amateurfunk vom 23. Juni 1997 (BGBl. I S. 1494), die Allgemeinheit oder einen unbestimmten Personenkreis bestimmt sind, abgehört oder in vergleichbarer Weise zur Kenntnis genommen werden. Der Inhalt anderer als in Satz 1 genannter Nachrichten sowie die Tatsache ihres Empfangs dürfen, auch wenn der Empfang unbeabsichtigt geschieht, auch von Personen, für die eine Pflicht zur Geheimhaltung nicht schon nach § 88 besteht, anderen nicht mitgeteilt werden. § 88 Abs. 4 gilt entsprechend. Das Abhören oder die in vergleichbarer Weise erfolgende Kenntnisnahme und die Weitergabe von Nachrichten auf Grund besonderer gesetzlicher Ermächtigung bleiben unberührt.

That means only pilot or other flight related personnel are eligible to receive and listen to it.

Link:
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/tkg_2004/__89.html

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I use this one. I have purchased it in 2008 from an Electronics Store in Toronto/Canada.
Not sure if this model is still being manufactured or is discontinued.

Grundig Satellit 750 AM/FM Stereo/Shortwave/Aircraft Band Radio

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Were you all thinking of this?
GitHub - szpajder/RTLSDR-Airband: Multichannel AM/NFM demodulator

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it seems to be a Tecsun but for whatever reason it has another brand name. if you think is good I will get one for myself here in China. What type of antenna do you use? I lived in Toronto for many years and I still visit from time to time. :slight_smile:

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I also use this device with a similar software but it is not as good as the actual radios.

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The one I have (Make: Grundig GmbH, Germany) is very good. I don’t know about Tecsun as I have never used it.

 

I live in an aprtment with no permission to install anything outdoors. I use thie radio’s built-in Telescopiic antenna, but it has provision to connect external antennas also (Coax and Wire types)

SIDE VIEW

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CLICK AGAIN TO SEE FULL SIZE

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I used this Yeasu, but have been so dumb to sell it a few years ago. Now I regret is. Used a wire as antenna, as I lam living in an appartement as well.

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I think they are the same product. Grundig was famous for introducing the televisions to Germany. but I think they ran into financial problems and ended up being bought by another major companies. I am going to purchase on for fun. Thanks for the suggestion!

Below is the link for Tecsun.

https://m.tb.cn/h.4LTc7aq?sm=2ca16a

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I found another one by brand name Eton on Amazon.

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It seems many clones of original Grundig Satellit 750 are available in market.

Do these have same quality as original Grundig Germany one had?

It appears Eton license the Grundig name in North America. I believe Tecsun manufacture and design radios for them:

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Seeing the year (2004) in the article you likned, I have started doubting that the one I purchased in 2008 labelled Grundig was NOT made in Germany by Grundig Gmbh, but was by Eton of North America, and actually manufactured in Tiwan or Korea. :roll_eyes:

I am also surprised at its current prices of US $399.99, while in 2008 I paid only Canadian $300 which is equalent to US $210, half of current price.

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Almost certainly the case, as Grundig GmbH became Grundig AG in 1972 and declared bankruptcy in 2003.
Also, I think Eton have stopped using the Grundig brand name and are are now using their own name.

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One thing is certain: this particular model is so good that it has survived for 17 years (after Grundig was dissolved in 2004), and is still manufactured & sold by Tecsun and Eton under their own brand names, and Eton selling at US $400, double the price of 2008, while Tecsun selling at Canadian $308 which is same as 2008 price. However model number of Tesun is S2000, and not Satellit 750

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CYYZ APPROACH
https://www.liveatc.net/hlisten.php?mount=cyyz6&icao=cyyz

CYYZ TOWER
https://www.liveatc.net/hlisten.php?mount=cyyz7&icao=cyyz

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Airband monitoring recently got me into ADS-B so as to “see” the aircraft I was hearing. Started with the late 80s handheld Sony AIR-8 then an SDRplay RSPdx. Last year picked up a Uniden BC125AT. All perform well in airband and have the essential scan function. Handheld rubber ducky antennas pick up the strong ground-based ATC transmissions and nearby aircraft. A coax half wave dipole outside improved aircraft reception substantially. A copper j-pole further increased range to 200 mi. Airband frequency is more forgiving than 1090.

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