For Part 135 Pilots: Fatigue Survey


Fellow Part 135 Aviators:

This survey is for all Part 135 pilots who have, at one time or another, flown under Part 135.

My request to you is for you to take a Part 135 Pilot Fatigue Survey. This survey is being conducted by a trusted friend of mine of 7 years, John Robbins, who is a graduate student at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. He is conducting this survey for his graduate research project. There is an identical paper survey concurrently in circulation, however, the Internet allows many more Part 135 pilots to easily take this survey.

The survey will take about 2-5 minutes. The survey is ANONYMOUS, however, it is recommended that you use a public computer, such as one found in a FBO pilot lounge, hotel lobby or library for complete anonymity.

Background info on how your survey responses will be handled:

Your responses are NOT stored on my server. I CANNOT see your responses. Your responses are immediately emailed to John Robbins by my server, with no record of your responses remaining on my server. While my server does keep a record of the IP address of the computer that submitted on the survey, the IP information is NOT and will NOT be passed to John Robbins. This is the reason for my recommendation to use a FBO pilot lounge computer, or any public use computer (absolute anonymity). Make sure to close the browser window after the survey is completed so that nobody may use the “back” button to view your responses.

The link to the survey is:

If your popup blocker prevents this link from opening, please copy and paste the above link into your browser address bar.

If you would like to take this survey at another time, it is easiest to remember the “” website. There is a link to this survey on the main page of Just punch into a browser address bar and click on the survey link at the top of the page.

I encourage everyone to forward this link onto as many Part 135 pilot friends as you know!

The survey opening date is October 16, 2008. The survey length will be determined by the amount of surveys received, or late November, whichever occurs first.

The results of this survey will be available at the same survey link ( Bookmark it and revisit the survey link after December 1, 2008 for the results.

Thank you. Your participation is very much appreciated.

Thomas Mahoney Jr. for:

John M. Robbins
Graduate Student
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University


Gee, no jokes yet?..


Why joke? This sounds like a very serious study.


“Lurking” is one’s best friend when one doesn’t understand what is being said to what is being quoted

Saves public embarrassment :wink:


Wait, I don’t get it…Why would anyone make a joke about the world’s best aeronautical university??? :unamused:


Wait, I don’t get it…Why would anyone make a joke about the world’s best aeronautical university??? :unamused:

You mean the world biggest waist of money


Nice spelling. Did you graduate from Riddle?!?!



Naw, he seems to know not to waist his money away :smiley:

But then again, maybe he talks from experience to know it’s a waist of money! :stuck_out_tongue:



HAHA I didn’t catch my own mistake. that’s why I’m a pilot not a copy editor of a newspaper.

Riddle is a good school- it’s just a wast of money.


Sorry, can’t let this one rest :stuck_out_tongue:

wast??? I hope you don’t copy your own clearances!




I believe old school way. Take the new pilots behind the shed and beat them until they tell you they DONT know everything. They were meant to leave that way of thinking back at high school.
The put them in the right seat to learn respect and knowledge. From what I have seen it takes 6 months for them to shut their trap. :smiley: :smiley: :wink: :arrow_right:


Riddle - Teach stupid how to fly with money.
Ridiculous - Immature - Daddies - Dearest - Learning - Expense.

Better than the stock exchange - Trading Spoiled Dollars for Flight hours, Safety and Lives.

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :bulb: But don’t get me wrong here, Most passengers would Defecate themselves if they knew a pilot upfront only had 400-1000 hours as the rain starts down hard and lightning cracking as aircraft gets bounced around. Thanks to auto-pilots we can do this easier.


To all who have participated in this survey: Thank you very much! At the moment of this writing, 100 surveys have been received. Reliable statistics have been formed from your survey responses.

This Fatigue Survey is still in progress. If you or a Part 135 pilot friend you know have not yet filled one out, when you have an opportunity to do so, please click on the survey link in the first posting (or here:

Sometime this month, the survey will end. The results and a research paper write-up will be available at the same survey link sometime after December 1, 2008.

Thomas Mahoney Jr.


I believe old school way. Take the new pilots behind the shed and beat them until they tell you they DONT know everything. They were meant to leave that way of thinking back at high school.

Will someone PLEASE do this to my FO? I’d do it but I’d need to use a ski mask and disguise my voice!


Will this information be submitted to any form of agency (such as the AOPA) to increase awareness on the issue???


Once he completes his research paper, all it takes is to email it to a few different agencies and see if they will publish it in some manner, the full paper or abbreviated snippets. I believe that he will be doing this.

John had an agreement with a company that produces fatigue-monitoring devices called “actigraphs.” Pilots could wear an actigraph on their arm like a wristwatch, monitoring their fatigue levels inobtrusively. They were willing to donate a few to allow him to conduct the research.

Well, John and I have both worked for a few different 135 operators since he started into this topic almost 2 years ago and we both ran into a lot of friction/resistance/negative reception from Directors of Operations and Chief Pilots. It just seems that 135 operators do not want to know the truth about their fatigued pilots. They certainly made us both aware that they do not want some device monitoring what is going on during flight (so that explains why CVR’s are always MEL’d…).

John told me that after this research paper is produced, he will continue research into this topic as he continues towards his PhD and may be able to pursue the actigraph issue again with 135 operators.

JetBlue used actigraph monitoring with their pilots a few years ago, however, I heard a rumor that it was discontinued at the demand of passengers.


Yeah, right!


Definitely wasn’t discontinued by the demand of passengers. … ilots.html


Alright, I did some research, but liberma beat me to the submit button. … ilots.html

Just replace “demand of passengers” with “demand of FAA.” That is the reason I said RUMOR.