That is just plain wrong. Indicated airspeed is a perfectly accurate number and is used as the base number from which both Mach and True Airspeed are calculated. Porterjet answered the question correctly:
As usual Dami, you read something in a source that you don’t fully understand and then post inaccurate information, which you then get defensive about when anyone points out your errors.
And here’s where I say I am right and you and your cohort are not:
Direct quote from an experienced airline pilot:
At higher altitudes the IAS is ver low and practically useless. If you cruise areound the mid-30,000 mark at 440ki TAS, the IAS is only about 230kt. Thus, in cruise flight we mainly use the Mach number.
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When ATC ask you for your speed in cruise flight this is usually the number they want. It is also used to keep a constant distance between aircraft on the same tracks over non-radar oceanic area, known as Mach sequncing. In this scenario, all aircraft are required to maintain the same Mach speed even if climbing or descending. This ensures proper separation between the aircraft even without radar, and is verified by the pilot’s mandatory position reports.
Source: “How Fast Are We Going” by Mac af Uhr, Airways Magazine, May 2008, Page 47.
Here’s what else Porterjet said::
Over water, non-radar separation is done with the Mach number.
WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID!
When you start flying high performance jets in a non-radar environment, then I will accept what you (flier and al) say. Especially Al: His plane is no where near a high performance aircraft.
Is this on the internet where we can read for ourselves? Or is this based on your opinion on interpreting something inaccessible online? Time after time, your interpretation of your resources in my opinion has been left to be desired.
Pleae enlighten me, as I sure missed it if you said it
Where in this thread did YOU type out the words non-radar environment or even differentiate radar vs non radar environment? Had you made the distinction, I wouldn’t even be participating in this thread.
Until I questioned you, you said nothing of the sorts. If you did in this thread, please again enlighten me and I will be happy to type the words I am sorry.
Guess I wont be doing that, will I because I read this thread b4 typing this response and what I quoted you is flat out wrong on it’s merits (no need to repeat, it’s all above this posting).
Ah, yet another personal attack? Pray tell, what did this have to do with the topic on hand? STILL awaiting your response on the banter thread.
The start of the article is at airways.mag. But, why don’t you pry $5.99 plus tax out of your wallet, go down to your local newstand or bookstore, and buy the magazine. Perhaps you will finally become enlightened as to the ways of airline operations.
Yes, you are right. I didn’t specifically say “non-radar” but that was my fault. I forgot not everyone knows about the difference between radar and non-radar environments.
Again, about your customer “service.” You once said you were direct. I said then and I say now that there is no difference between being direct and being rude. You may - repeat, may - give customer service but you need to learn tact. If you were at my company and you were as direct as you are, you would be out on your ass in no time.
Airways Magazine is not a brochure. It is a full length magazine that has been published for many, many years.
I’ve gone through your postings. Outside of the many that just have a smiley in them, I couldn’t find where you, an ex-airline CEO and a psychiatrist, said you were the pilot of a heavy duty bizjet.
Amen! Mduell, et al, are the ones who own this forum. They are the ones who provide customer service. Everyone else, including me, are just plain ol’ posters.
That shiny object is distracting you from the point here Dami. It doesn’t matter if it a magazine or brochure or the operations manual for an plane, what matters is that you don’t have the background knowledge to understand what they are saying and so misinterpret it, then you post your ignorance here. Over and over and over again.
Okay, caflier (and allen, too). You win. As anyone can see, they are never wrong and I am never right. You win.
You don’t know a damn thing about my background, flier. You don’t know that I worked for the FAA at one time as an assistant air traffic controller at the Oakland ARTCC. You don’t know that I have taken ground school. I wish you and your friend would get off your high horses and allow that I do know something. If the moderators are reading this, you can consider this to be an official protest against these two. I am tired of them constantly cutting me and other down.
Ah dami, you are so predictable. I was waiting for that so I could make my point. I may be all of those things, I may be none or I may some of them. None of us have any idea who anyone on this board really is, only who they say there are. So we can only judge them by what they post, not who they say they are and what knowledge that they say they have.
BTW, kinda sad that you spend a perfect Sunday afternoon rereading every old post of mine.
Well isn’t that interesting. Before you posted that you were an air traffic assistant, are you giving yourself a promotion? (dami ATA). In fact, after you posted it I was talking to the Oakland ARTCC chief and asked him exactly what an ATA did in his facility. Suffice it to say that the list wasn’t very impressive. I don’t remember everything, but it sounded more clerical than anything to do with being a real controller.
As for ground school, go reread your book. The information that I posted about airspeeds is in there and a standard part of the written test. Hard to believe that someone who studied that material wouldn’t understand something as basic as what airspeed is.
Finally, as to your complaint. As far as I can tell, you are the only one calling people names that requires the use of asterisks to be acceptable.
So we can keep this on topic, why not use the banter thread for comments like you say above. If you plan to respond to my post, please use the banter thread.
There we go, ladies and gentlemen. You got any question about aviation then Allen’s your man. He knows everything about aviation. Need to know Wilbur Wright’s waist size? Ask him. Got a question on IAS? Ask him. Need to know what navigational aids will be like in 2034? Ask him. He knows everything about aviation and isn’t afraid to be the grand corrector for us common peons who know nothing about anything.
discussions.flightaware.com/view … &start=365 is my constantly unanswered response to your ramblings, and out of respect to the forums and others, it sure would be nice for you to keep your tirades in the Banter thread as requested by Flight Aware folks.
I have been doing my best to keep off topic thoughts in the above mention thread, what about you?