Poll: Tell about your current antenna design and placement

Hello, a recent newbie to the ADSB hobby and have been educating myself about all facets of aircraft tracking. While I have read so many posts on antennas, their designs, placement etc., it is tough to get a sense on who is using what and where is it placed. If you search the Forum for “antenna”, over 1,300 messages come up!

As a professional market research executive by day I thought to myself, why not start by asking the Forum members the basics: which antenna they use, where it is placed – and see what they say. I have never used the “Poll” functionality before, so I apologize if I mess things up. There are limitations to the Poll functionality so I figured I would start with these basic questions.

Basically I would like to quantify:
Which type of antenna you use (a list of common variants is provided); and
The location whether indoors, attic or outdoors.

The Poll allows two responses, so please answer** once **for the antenna using (if you use more than one, please only select one) and a second for the location (either Indoors, Attic or Outdoors). Please note the Poll cannot differentiate between one response for the type of antenna and one for location – versus incorrectly inputting two antenna responses.

If you have another setup (multiple antennas, multiple locations for a single feeder, etc.) or any other interesting comments on your antenna design or placement, I think you may be able to post a Reply with that additional info.

If this proves interesting, perhaps we can expand this for more insight. For example, the exact antenna location (in the room, against the window, in the yard, estimated height of antenna, first floor, second floor, etc.), your estimate of antenna clear visibility, amplified vs. non amplified setup, etc to help better understand the coverage collected and maybe help one another out. :bulb:

Thanks for participating!

Brian

*FYI - I currently am using a DIY 1/4 ground plane S0239 spider with 4 arrays, single vertical whip mounted on northern facing roof eave approximately 22’ off the ground. There is a 25’ RG6QS coax feed from the antenna using a PL259 connector to a male F connector which plugs into a F female coax to male MCX pigtail then into the dongle. No amplification at this time. It is resting on top of 2 feet of 3/4" pvc pipe, but only has clear visibility to a guestimate of say 80% of the horizon/sky due to impediments of the roof pitch, nearby houses, etc. However, this current setup is double the performance of the stock whip antenna which previously was just sitting on my window sill. *

I have a wideband discone, and a commercial 5dBi 960 MHz collinear vertical antenna, both roof mounted (two story house with a great view of Silicon Valley). Low loss 50 Ohm feedlines to both. RF chains for each antenna include a Mini Circuits SHF-1000 high pass filter, a low noise amplifier, and a 1090 MHz SAW filter, feeding the SDR.

Actually, 3 SDRs – the discone RF chain has a Mini Circuits splitter at the end driving 2 SDRs. The 5dBi vert has its own SDR on a similar RF chain.

The discone does pretty well locally, but the 5dBi vert does much better, particularly at distance.

I also make decisions based on data – look at some of my posts for descriptions on evaluating system performance by comparing your station to a local reference.

bob k6rtm

I am currently using a franklin spider hybrid constructed from a chassis n-connector with 8 radials. This is connected directly to a satellite TV inline amplifier via an N-F type adaptor, then a satellite diplexer acting as a 950 MHz high pass filter with the low output terminated, and then a DC power injector. Connection to the receiver is with an F-MCX hard adaptor rather than a pigtail.

The receiver is an R820T2 running on a raspberry pi B. This is all in the loft so coax runs are short. I’m not sure what the coax is without looking, but it’s surplus from a cable modem installation.

The antenna is mounted on a length of plastic water pipe as high as possible in the apex of the roof. Reception is good east/west, but slightly blocked by the brick walls at the ends of the house.

:slight_smile: Best of luck with the poll.
A problem is it assumes a single feed for a site which is inadequate for some feeders.
At home there is a 1/4 wave 8 leg spider just above the roofline (hiding from the CC&R compliance folks) connected with 50’ RG6 to a RPi B which feeds FA with dump1090-mutability on the pi, Planeplotter and VRS via desktop. The laptop runs planeplotter with an indoor 1/4 eave 4 legged spider when home.
In the RV the laptop uses a 6 segment COCO on 50’ of RG6. Also in the RV is a RPi 2 running dump1090-mutability to feed FA. Most recently antenna is Cantenna on 40’ RG6 Reception while traveling seems pretty good. YMMV

I’m using a Diapason MCX antenna from jetvision.de. The antenna is placed outdoors on the second floor. Above me is a penthouse, so visibility is blocked to the North, unfortunately. It is connected to a bananapi via a DVB-T USB dongle, the signal being “tuned” with the help of an amplifier + power injector.
Yesterday I had 263,230 positions reported, from 4,711 aircrafts, at a maximum range of 200nm.

Pretty interesting results so far. Hopefully we can get more member responses over the next few days!

Thanks again for participating.

Mitex UHF magmount cut to 67mm on top of a biscuit tin lid outside on the top of a dormer window. Great spec and good performance.
mitex.co.uk/mitex-uhf-magmount-a … 8867f7f385

Homemade 8el coco mast-mounted on roof up 35ft. Antenna is directly connected to satellite amplifier running down a long run of rg-6 to bias-t/power inserter. I’ve got a mini circuits vbfz-1065 bandpass filter between bias-t and nooelec r820t2 dongle.

field of view is hampered by fact I’m at a relative low point in a forested area. my view to the southeast is blocked by nearby forest. however, even with these limitations this setup results in an average of 100k adsb positions/1900 birds a day. max range is 200+ miles to northeast.

the bpf still lets in a ton of rf from nearby gsm transmitters that I suspect are continuing to affect the sensitivity of the dongle. as a result I will be putting a saw filter in place in an effort to further improve performance. will let you all know how that goes.

I have stock antenna about 20 feet in the air.
I get 200 NM range from it.

Cantenna in the attic and a 4-legged spider in a bedroom window.

Marty

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14758318/cantenna.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14758318/IMG_0520.JPG

So far we have had 37 members provide information on their antenna. 1/4 Ground plane spider and collinear coax top 2 choices with majority using an outside mounting.

Hopefully we can get some more members to provide info over the weekend!

(This was somewhat of a mundane and obvious post; the primary goal was to get the Poll back on top of the recent discussions page.)

I have built a RG6 COCO antenna with 8 segments @ 111.4mm roof mounted about 25’ above ground. I am using a tv/satellite diplexor as a high pass filter between the antenna and a Motorola broadband drop amp (25-1000mhz). I have about 30 feet of RG6 from the amp to a ground block before it enters the house. From there I have another 10’ stretch feeding a R820T dongle. I am in a location that is relatively flat so my range is good in all directions.

Cheers!
LitterBug


Light green = 0-10,000 ft
Dark green = 10,000-20,000 ft
Blue = 20,000-30,000 ft
Red = 30,000+ ft

Home system is a Pi-Aware with a “A3 ADS-B” Antenna by Jetvision.de with a 10m cable from Jetvision as well. Just before the dongle I recently installed a VBFZ 1065 S+ Bandpass fillter by Mini-Circuits which gave a huge boost to both planes and positions observed. As my home is right between two cell towers (150m to one and 200m to the next one) I was hoping this would happen but it was a lot more then I expected. Shortly after I installed a new mast (with small delay due to weather) which increased my range quite a lot. I still have plenty of blind spots, especially to the west as there is a huge 30m high dune and my mast is at around 12m ASL now.

Increased planes and positions can be seen in following screenshot of my stats with annotation. Current location, stats and range can be seen Current PiAware Stats
http://i.imgur.com/aAsy016.png

My travelling system is the one that got me started with supplying data to FA and at the moment is right in the middle of the North Sea.
It’s my laptop running PP with a Diapason MCX also via Jetvision. I ordered the dongle and antenna while I was offshore and wanted to see our crewchange helicopters. I got way more than I bargained for. At the moment the antenna is on the west side of the rigs accommodation at around 50m ASL (Same height as our helideck) and occasionally picks up planes in the Irish Sea. But soon I’ll change the antenna to the east side of the rig so it has a clear view towards Denmark (Our crewchange helicopters fly in from Esbjerg). I can’t raise the antenna above the accommodation/bridge as it will be bombarded by radars, satellite communications and other transmitters. I’ll order another Pi this weekend and try to get it onboard before I’ll go home, so atleast I can use my laptop again to watch movies after shift.

Location, stats and range can be seen at Travelling System

Ps. FlightAware, I know my position is correct
http://i.imgur.com/KPCpeKP.png
All GPS’s on board agree. I don’t know if it is because of the skewed amount of positions to the west or because it is in the middle of nowhere.

If you have not participated in the polling, please share your antenna setup with the group. It’s the perfect time to vote since we can’t view flights! :smile: :tired_face:

Homemade 8 elm coco antenna mast mounted on the roof at 14mtr above street level.
Then a 35db preamp thats passing a homemade bandpass filter into the R820T2.

average of 720k adsb positions/6600 birds a day. max range is 200+ NM (each circle is 50NM)

Edwin van den berg

24 element CoCo, amp, diplexer, dongle, Rpi approx 10m above ground.
http://img7011.photobox.co.uk/46894144515ee7729f2933fed4d1b29e42c04752c3ab6e68bfb23d4657ed8d53d0881b87.jpg

4? Element Bulgarian collinear from eBay at about 10m ( above chimney height) sat amp, 8.5m Rg6, diplexer (made no diff) DC injector, r820t, original piB, vonets vap11g wifi bridge

Diapason antenna from jetvision.de (attic, 10m AGL), RTL-SDR USB dongle, feeding from the RasPi to FA and FR24, range 175nm, >3.000 planes on weekdays

40ft chunk of RG6 chopped up into a 12 segment coco antenna with a 35 ft tail run into my SDR dongle. It is mounted on a re-purposed television antenna pole attached to my chimney approx 25ft off the ground. I have seen hits 200+miles to the west over the Pacific Ocean and 200+ miles up north into Canada.

I have a left-over FR24 coco antenna on a 6 metre high mast with. Connected to the antenna via N-Type connector is 5m of LMR400 co-axial cable terminating in the garage to an RTL Dongle (R820T) connected via a 1 metre USB cable to a Raspberry Pi. No power injectors, splitters or amplifiers and I can happily get 220nm or more each day. The outer range ring below is 250nm!

http://www.hfaero.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/msd.jpg

Michael

New Zealand