BREAKING NEWS - Pilatus crash - Butte MT - 17 Dead

No I remember this one, it was a NW Airlink being ferried and the crew decided to hotdog and it didn’t pan out for them.

I cannot say, sorry. by the way, who is FX?

I was reffering to the company with dual flameout that Mel works for. Not those idiots hotdogging it in the CRJ.

Got ya.

FlightOptions had a Beechjet that had a dual flameout.

They have had more than one that I know about!!! The one I was talking actually happened 45 minutes after I had flown through the same area… :astonished:

I believe they had two. One went to JAX and the other went into SRQ. The JAX one landed without getting a relight.

The AP (via NPR) now is suspecting that there may have been children sitting on laps of adults, and has given FA a plug:

npr.org/templates/story/stor … =102224750

And I guess my thought was right. The flight originated from KSDM. Also, it might have been some sort of engine or avionics trouble… Plot thickens.

BL.

Thanks to those flameouts, I now get dual engine flameouts in the sim every time I go for recurrent in Texas!!! good thing is, I have made it back to the airport and they never give me 30000 feet to play with either!!!

I was just there at the same place last week and asked for the Hudson river approach myself!

did you make it?

One year I had a pretty cool instructor and one of my approaches was into PANC. after we landed he said we had some time left and suggested going and landing on a glacier!!! that was one rough landing…

gr8pilot1 = check your messages

Be careful, there may be an instructor down there who might dump some water on you next time to give you the full effect :laughing:

The LA Times has provided more information on the victims. 9 of the victims were related to Dr “Bud” Feldkamp - a prominent Dentist from Redland CA. Apparently Dr Feldkamp - the Owner - WAS NOT on board the aircraft but was driving to meet them. Two of his daughters were on board along with their husbands and children.

latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 … finit.html

Man, what a tragedy. Wiped out his entire family. Talk about scaring people out of flying for a while.

Thanks. 8)

concerning flight diversion, what we might not know at this time is the communications between the acft and family waiting for the flight.

You are right. There is plenty of speculation, but based on the fact that the guy was experienced and he crashed in what appears to be VMC then I am still going to go with the possibility he had a problem and diverted out of neccesity.

More victims identified (this is a complete list of passengers)

fox40.com/pages/landing_loca … feedID=190

In addition to this complete list of passengers the Pilot has been identified as Bud Summerfield

In reading this thread I’ve learned a lot about this aircraft type. It was loaded with to many people, but the fact that there were 7 adults and 7 small children is different from the earlier portions of the thread that indicated that it was 7 adults and 7 teens going on a ski trip. The weight & balance may still be a factor, but based on an earlier posting I’m guessing the NTSB can get medical records and know everyone’s weight and get close to baggage weights.

At the end of the day we still need to just keep praying for the surviving family members of all these people.

Yes, when you see the list of ages it explains how there could be so many passengers on board. Sadly most of the children were very young toddlers that could easily sit on a parents lap.