# VC 25 AF1 **URL:** \ **Category:** Notable Activity\ **Created:** [August 29, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/vc-25-af1/8234 "2009-08-29T02:36:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WDWMonorail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5e9695/32.png) [@WDWMonorail](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/WDWMonorail)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/vc-25-af1/8234/1 "2009-08-29T02:36:33Z")
I was driving south on I -95 past Wash, DC on Sunday the 23rd. I saw a 4 engine a/c head climbing southbound and turning west at about 10:30 AM I figured it came from one of the 19s at Andrews AFB. Then I read that Obama was headed to Mass. that same morning. Any chance of knowing on which runway and which ascent path AF1 took? ---
**Author:** ![Squigish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71e660/32.png) [@Squigish](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/Squigish)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/vc-25-af1/8234/2 "2009-08-29T03:12:07Z")
Not from radar tracking data. It’s a military flight, so it’s automatically blocked from being tracked by sites like this one. The only hope would be from ATC recordings, but it seems unlikely. Maybe ask over at [liveatc.net](http://liveatc.net) ---
**Author:** ![wazzu90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bc79bd/32.png) [@wazzu90](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/wazzu90)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/vc-25-af1/8234/3 "2009-08-29T03:50:29Z")
You might have seen a KC-135 or many other possibilities. ---
**Author:** ![WDWMonorail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5e9695/32.png) [@WDWMonorail](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/WDWMonorail)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/vc-25-af1/8234/4 "2009-09-05T00:17:44Z")
Yes, I am aware that gov and AF flights are not tracked and that it could have been another aircraft. I was wondering if anyone knew a departure time that day. Thanks anyway.