# UPS and FedEx **URL:** \ **Category:** Airlines\ **Created:** [July 16, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911 "2009-07-16T17:50:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![trjrfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc29f/32.png) [@trjrfly](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/trjrfly)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/1 "2009-07-16T17:50:56Z")
Where are UPS and FedEx main airport hubs? ---
**Author:** ![drdisque](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/drdisque/32/1556_2.png) [@drdisque](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/drdisque)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/2 "2009-07-16T18:10:57Z")
UPS’s main hub is Louisville (SDF) - They have a smaller hubs in Philadelphia (PHL), Ontario (ONT), DFW, Rockford (RFD), Columbia (CAE), and Hartford (BDL) Fedex’s main hub is in Memphis (MEM) - they have smaller hubs in Oakland, Newark, Anchorage, Indianapolis, and Ft. Worth ---
**Author:** ![CltFlyer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@CltFlyer](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/CltFlyer)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/3 "2009-07-21T21:04:41Z")
> [@drdisque](#): > > UPS’s main hub is Louisville (SDF) - They have a smaller hubs in Philadelphia (PHL), Ontario (ONT), DFW, Rockford (RFD), Columbia (CAE), and Hartford (BDL) > > Fedex’s main hub is in Memphis (MEM) - they have smaller hubs in Oakland, Newark, Anchorage, Indianapolis, and Ft. Worth Fedex is opening up their latest midatlantic hub in gso/Greensboro, North Carolina later this year. ---
**Author:** ![314159](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/9fc29f/32.png) [@314159](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/314159)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/4 "2009-07-22T17:30:20Z")
FedEx also has a hub at [YYZ](http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=toronto,+on&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=53.080379,92.548828&ie=UTF8&ll=43.683818,-79.659408&spn=0.005982,0.011297&t=h&z=17) (Toronto) ---
**Author:** ![IADFXMD11HVY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58956e/32.png) [@IADFXMD11HVY](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/IADFXMD11HVY)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 2:45pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/5 "2009-07-23T14:45:02Z")
> [@314159](#): > > FedEx also has a hub at [YYZ](http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=toronto,+on&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=53.080379,92.548828&ie=UTF8&ll=43.683818,-79.659408&spn=0.005982,0.011297&t=h&z=17) (Toronto) Really…news to me?!? I know there is a HUB at CDG, and a fairly new hub in China which took the place of the once very large pacific hub in the Philippines ex Flying Tiger turf. I’m not sure how many flights YYZ gets, but it may just get a bunch which would make it seem like a hub…just like LAX…not a hub but a ton of flights. 😉 HEY I learned something today…I can go to bed 😉 [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FedEx\_Express](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FedEx_Express) Looks like YYZ is a hub…never knew. How many movements I wonder, from the pic I see a 10, baby bus, and 2 727’s. ---
**Author:** ![314159](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/9fc29f/32.png) [@314159](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/314159)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 2:28pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/6 "2009-07-24T14:28:26Z")
Good eye. That’s pretty much what I see parked there whenever I swing by. Interestingly, the 5 airplanes located on the opposite side of the ramp are painted in Jetsgo livery. I assume they were parked there following the bankruptcy of Jetsgo indicating that Google’s satellite image is at least 4-years old. ---
**Author:** ![IADFXMD11HVY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58956e/32.png) [@IADFXMD11HVY](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/IADFXMD11HVY)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/7 "2009-07-24T15:29:51Z")
> [@314159](#): > > Good eye. > > That’s pretty much what I see parked there whenever I swing by. > > Interestingly, the 5 airplanes located on the opposite side of the ramp are painted in Jetsgo livery. I assume they were parked there following the bankruptcy of Jetsgo indicating that Google’s satellite image is at least 4-years old. Do you ever see feeders there? That may be why it is a hub. The jets come in and send a bunch of props out…just don’t get how 5 flights a day would constitote a “Hub” when I KNOW KLAX gets a ton more and yet are NOT a hub. Interesting factoid about that other carrier…are the a/c still parked there? ---
**Author:** ![prvande](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f05b48/32.png) [@prvande](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/prvande)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/8 "2009-09-23T19:55:59Z")
fedex and ups pretty much run the cargo world…agreed? ---
**Author:** ![will744](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/779978/32.png) [@will744](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/will744)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/9 "2009-09-23T20:11:01Z")
> [@prvande](#): > > fedex and ups pretty much run the cargo world…agreed? Agreed. Don’t know about DHL? ---
**Author:** ![tyketto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/tyketto/32/126247_2.png) [@tyketto](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/tyketto)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/10 "2009-09-23T22:26:59Z")
> [@will744](#): > > > [@prvande](#): > > > > fedex and ups pretty much run the cargo world…agreed? > > Agreed. Don’t know about DHL? DHL all but ceased operations in the US late last year and early this year, including ending their contract with ABX (which they bought), and going into operations with UPS (which was terminated in June 2009). Shortly after that, they dropped all US service, axed 9500 jobs, and are only running international operations (and barely at that). For all intents and purposes, DHL is gone. BL. ---
**Author:** ![will744](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/779978/32.png) [@will744](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/will744)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/11 "2009-09-23T23:03:49Z")
> [@tyketto](#): > > > [@will744](#): > > > > > [@prvande](#): > > > > > > fedex and ups pretty much run the cargo world…agreed? > > Agreed. Don’t know about DHL? > > DHL all but ceased operations in the US late last year and early this year, including ending their contract with ABX (which they bought), and going into operations with UPS (which was terminated in June 2009). Shortly after that, they dropped all US service, axed 9500 jobs, and are only running international operations (and barely at that). > > For all intents and purposes, DHL is gone. > > BL. Did not hear anything on the news about that. Thanks for the info. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ejericson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90db22/32.png) [@ejericson](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/ejericson)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/12 "2009-09-24T17:34:01Z")
Of course youre not going to hear anything about that on the news, This administration is supposed to be HELPING the economy and CREATING jobs. The liberal media isnt going to show anything that could be misconstrued as caused by the so called “improving” economy. There are hundreds of important things everyday that get NO coverage by any network other than FOXNEWS. ---
**Author:** ![tyketto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/tyketto/32/126247_2.png) [@tyketto](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/tyketto)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/13 "2009-09-24T18:24:01Z")
> [@ejericson](#): > > Of course youre not going to hear anything about that on the news, This administration is supposed to be HELPING the economy and CREATING jobs. The liberal media isnt going to show anything that could be misconstrued as caused by the so called “improving” economy. > There are hundreds of important things everyday that get NO coverage by any network other than FOXNEWS. Uhh… This was more than well reported by the news: [Reuters](http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS208313+23-Oct-2008+PRN20081023) [Business Courier](http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2008/10/20/daily54.html) [Wilmington News Journal](http://www.wnewsj.com/main.asp?SectionID=49&SubSectionID=156&ArticleID=170480&TM=29295.16) [CNN](http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/10/news/companies/dhl/index.htm) [CNBC](http://www.cnbc.com/id/30267640) Two of those are would you would call very ‘liberal’ media. So please don’t turn this into a political debate, because it isn’t. BL. ---
**Author:** ![ejericson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90db22/32.png) [@ejericson](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/ejericson)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/14 "2009-09-24T18:30:50Z")
Sorry, im still rowled up over a debate i had at work last night. I go overboard sometime. im still in that mood! ya know how it is… ---
**Author:** ![JHEM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/jhem/32/9683_2.png) [@JHEM](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/JHEM)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/15 "2009-09-24T18:30:59Z")
> [@ejericson](#): > > Of course youre not going to hear anything about that on the news, This administration is supposed to be HELPING the economy and CREATING jobs. The liberal media isnt going to show anything that could be misconstrued as caused by the so called “improving” economy. > There are hundreds of important things everyday that get NO coverage by any network other than FOXNEWS. **WOW!** You do know that DHL leaving the US domestic freight market occurred during the **previous** administration’s watch, right? ---
**Author:** ![ejericson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90db22/32.png) [@ejericson](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/ejericson)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/16 "2009-09-24T18:35:43Z")
Foolishly i hadnt done any research on it before going off, Like i said i hadnt heard anything about it, so i ASSumed… and well dun dun dun 😊 ---
**Author:** ![185Driver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/97f17d/32.png) [@185Driver](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/185Driver)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 2:29am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/17 "2009-09-25T02:29:58Z")
> [@will744](#): > > > [@prvande](#): > > > > fedex and ups pretty much run the cargo world…agreed? > > Agreed. Don’t know about DHL? Internationally DHL & TNT might be bigger than UPS or FEDEx ---
**Author:** ![EatSleepJeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9dc877/32.png) [@EatSleepJeep](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/EatSleepJeep)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/18 "2009-09-25T02:34:08Z")
Ah, the typical conservative kneejerk reaction. It’s almost like listening to rightwingers try to explain to me why net neutrality is a bad thing when they clearly have no idea what they’re talking about. With that, we close the political portion of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![IADFXMD11HVY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58956e/32.png) [@IADFXMD11HVY](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/IADFXMD11HVY)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 1:07pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/ups-and-fedex/7911/19 "2009-09-29T13:07:27Z")
> [@185Driver](#): > > > [@will744](#): > > > > > [@prvande](#): > > > > > > fedex and ups pretty much run the cargo world…agreed? > > Agreed. Don’t know about DHL? > > Internationally DHL & TNT might be bigger than UPS or FEDEx When you say bigger…fleet? destinations serviced?..which DHL? TNT? I do know at one point in time a couple years ago FedEx had tried to buy TNT…do not know what ever came of that, but I am not thinking it happened or we would have been told.