# United merger

**URL:** <https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459>\
**Category:** Airlines\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459 "2010-08-04T03:14:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![pacolawrence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@pacolawrence](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/pacolawrence)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/1 "2010-08-04T03:14:10Z")

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United and contanintal merge but keep the look of contanintal but the name of united 😮😒😒❓

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**Author:** ![rw812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3da27b/32.png) [@rw812](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/rw812)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 3:20am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/2 "2010-08-04T03:20:34Z")

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for shure not Contanintal. maybe continental.  
I think Continental United would be good.

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**Author:** ![mduell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/mduell/32/115680_2.png) [@mduell](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/mduell)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:16am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/3 "2010-08-04T04:16:43Z")

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The livery looks fresh out of the 90s (oh wait, it is), but the combined carrier should be called United.

Hopefully nonepass won’t destroy mileage plus.

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**Author:** ![AWACdhc7](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/awacdhc7/32/123963_2.png) [@AWACdhc7](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/AWACdhc7)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/4 "2010-08-04T04:21:54Z")

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> [@rw812](#):
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> for shure not Contanintal. maybe continental.  
> I think Continental United would be good.

Didn’t Continental United just win the English Premier League?

As for me, I’d have hoped for either United or a new name, but not with an unmodified Continental logo. That’s just ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![wendellsmith1964](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/wendellsmith1964/32/132430_2.png) [@wendellsmith1964](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/wendellsmith1964)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/5 "2010-08-04T18:35:51Z")

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> [@mduell](#):
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> Hopefully nonepass won’t destroy mileage plus.

Funny you should mention that. I had to revalidate my OnePass account, in essence they explained how they had the right to change just about everything under the sun concerning frequent flier miles.

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**Author:** ![will744](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/779978/32.png) [@will744](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/will744)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:46pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/6 "2010-08-04T18:46:28Z")

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Continental. . . I think they should go back to Texas International. 😉

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**Author:** ![rw812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3da27b/32.png) [@rw812](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/rw812)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/7 "2010-08-04T18:53:59Z")

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> [@will744](#):
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> Continental. . . I think they should go back to Texas International. 😉

why not the original name of Texas International - do you know it?

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**Author:** ![will744](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/779978/32.png) [@will744](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/will744)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/8 "2010-08-04T19:04:38Z")

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Trans-Texas Airways.

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**Author:** ![rw812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3da27b/32.png) [@rw812](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/rw812)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/9 "2010-08-04T19:27:52Z")

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> [@will744](#):
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> Trans-Texas Airways.

very good.  
Now for the bonus round.  
who started Trans-texas Airways?

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**Author:** ![NeedleNose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/needlenose/32/86946_2.png) [@NeedleNose](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/NeedleNose)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/10 "2010-08-04T20:36:45Z")

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> [@rw812](#):
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> who started Trans-texas Airways?

Earl McKaughn

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**Author:** ![rw812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3da27b/32.png) [@rw812](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/rw812)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/11 "2010-08-04T21:07:45Z")

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> [@NeedleNose](#):
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> > who started Trans-texas Airways?
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> Earl McKaughn

… and\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ who had formed the company \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_?

like pulling teeth here! 🙂

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**Author:** ![wendellsmith1964](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/wendellsmith1964/32/132430_2.png) [@wendellsmith1964](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/wendellsmith1964)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 9:23pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/12 "2010-08-04T21:23:45Z")

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> [@rw812](#):
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> > [@NeedleNose](#):
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> > > who started Trans-texas Airways?
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> Earl McKaughn
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> … and\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ who had formed the company \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_?
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> like pulling teeth here! 🙂

“Texas Air, with headquarters in Houston, was an airline holding company with investments in airlines and related businesses. The company was founded by Francisco A. (Frank) Lorenzo, a New York City native and Harvard University graduate…”

[tshaonline.org/handbook/onli … /ept1.html](http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/TT/ept1.html)

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**Author:** ![rw812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3da27b/32.png) [@rw812](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/rw812)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/13 "2010-08-04T21:47:44Z")

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> [@wendellsmith1964](#):
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> > [@rw812](#):
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> > > > who started Trans-texas Airways?
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> Earl McKaughn
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> … and\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ who had formed the company \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_?
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> like pulling teeth here! 🙂
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> “Texas Air, with headquarters in Houston, was an airline holding company with investments in airlines and related businesses. The company was founded by Francisco A. (Frank) Lorenzo, a New York City native and Harvard University graduate…”
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> [tshaonline.org/handbook/onli … /ept1.html](http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/TT/ept1.html)

No. was talking about the beginnings of Trans Texas Airways. it was started by Aviation Enterprises, an FBO formed by Earl McKaughn and Henry Erdman in 1940.

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**Author:** ![will744](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/779978/32.png) [@will744](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/will744)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/14 "2010-08-04T22:12:46Z")

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Oh boy. . . Frank Lorenzo!

My granddad did not like that guy.

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**Author:** ![JHEM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/jhem/32/9683_2.png) [@JHEM](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/JHEM)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/15 "2010-08-05T12:53:11Z")

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> [@will744](#):
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> My granddad did not like that guy.

I know I’m probably going to regret asking this, but that statement begs the question as to why your Grandpa didn’t like Lorenzo.

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**Author:** ![will744](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/779978/32.png) [@will744](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/will744)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 1:23pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/16 "2010-08-05T13:23:53Z")

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That’s okay, J. I knew it was coming.

How 'bout I wait a couple of weeks before I tell you. I’ll be seeing him soon, so I can get the full story. 🙂

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**Author:** ![JHEM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/jhem/32/9683_2.png) [@JHEM](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/JHEM)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 1:36pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/17 "2010-08-05T13:36:51Z")

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> [@will744](#):
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> That’s okay, J. I knew it was coming.
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> How 'bout I wait a couple of weeks before I tell you. I’ll be seeing him soon, so I can get the full story. 🙂

Sure, but a hint would be appreciated.

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**Author:** ![will744](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/779978/32.png) [@will744](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/will744)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/18 "2010-08-05T13:43:43Z")

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He did some things that just weren’t in the book.  
I don’t think my granddad likes to talk about it much; but I’ll get something out of him. 😛

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**Author:** ![JHEM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/jhem/32/9683_2.png) [@JHEM](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/JHEM)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/19 "2010-08-05T15:31:02Z")

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> [@will744](#):
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> He did some things that just weren’t in the book.  
> I don’t think my granddad likes to talk about it much; but I’ll get something out of him. 😛

I’ll assume “He” refers to Lorenzo and not your Gramps, and did your GP work for TIA, Continental or Eastern?

Just curious, I know a great number of pilots and former pilots that would gladly hunt Lorenzo down if given the opportunity.

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**Author:** ![will744](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/779978/32.png) [@will744](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/will744)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/united-merger/10459/20 "2010-08-05T18:22:17Z")

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Yes, “He” is Lorenzo.

Grandpa worked for TIA.

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