# Radarbox AirNav Setup | Thoughts

**URL:** https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/radarbox-airnav-setup-thoughts/61807
**Category:** ADS-B Flight Tracking
**Created:** [March 5, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/radarbox-airnav-setup-thoughts/61807 "2020-03-05T11:06:31Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author: ![nikka93](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/nikka93/32/111973_2.png) [@nikka93](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/nikka93)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/radarbox-airnav-setup-thoughts/61807/1 "2020-03-05T11:06:31Z")

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Thanks to your help I’ve found a cheap offer for the RB Airnav setup, and I purchased the green usb stick with the 1090Mhz outdoor antenna.

The first thing that I noticed is **how hot this dongle became.**  
So I opened it and I put a couple of heatsinks on those two chipset but also the DC regulator runs around 50°C (122°F).

I’m a little bit scared about using that on summer ( here we can get around 40°C (104°F) in the hottest days) so I plan to put It on the north face of the building were is in not affected by sunlight.

The second thing is related to **the results that are not much better than the Nooelec Dongle** ( which runs cooler thanks to the heatsinks built-in) and the cute general purpose antenna for DVB-T.  
Looks like that I can spot only high altitude planes (check the last pic)  
Could this be related to the 10Meter coax cable? How much would I gain if I cut this by 2 o 3 meters?

Those are the results that I achieved with my test last day, 6th floor balcony with:

North horizon view  
Est Almost Clear, more wall from my building  
Ovest Almost Clear  
South my wall from my building

11:00 to 14:00 are referred to another location which is clearly worse than the one from 15:20 to 16:40 which is one that I’m talking about

 ![Schermata 2020-03-03 alle 17.00.11](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/flightaware/original/3X/3/b/3b62d2ce50c99d0fb8ca90adf1c3639826508cd6.png) ![Schermata 2020-03-03 alle 17.00.18](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/flightaware/original/3X/6/a/6a67babf21a485c4aca1eb4685a64c700df9aa06.png) ![Schermata 2020-03-03 alle 17.00.30](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/flightaware/original/3X/8/f/8f222a2bed700b04a97c7e7aab0bf0cb8396de61.png)

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### Author: ![wiedehopf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/wiedehopf/32/114045_2.png) [@wiedehopf](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/wiedehopf)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 11:42am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/radarbox-airnav-setup-thoughts/61807/2 "2020-03-05T11:42:35Z")

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First off you might want to set your location.  
If you are feeding FA, that’s done on your stats page.

Might not take effect until you restart piaware and dump1090-fa or just do `sudo reboot`.

In regards to range, a view of the horizon doesn’t mean all that much.  
If the horizon is a hill, then you don’t really see the horizon 😉  
Well technically it’s the horizon i think but … you get the picture, you can’t look straight, but only slightly up.  
Check this page in regards to the possible range you can get:

> [@What is the Maximum Range I can Get?](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/what-is-the-maximum-range-i-can-get/17248):
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> INTRODUCTION The Maximum Range achievable at any location depends on (1) Curvature of earth (2) The terrain around that location. Terrain plays a very important role as hills & changes in ground level will restrict maximum range. This is due to the fact that propagation of radio waves in GHz/Microwave range is line of sight. The range is therefore limited by curvature of earth, and is about 250 nautical miles / 450 km for an ideal condition of perfectly level terrain. Hills & rise in grou…

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### Author: ![abcd567](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/abcd567/32/113769_2.png) [@abcd567](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/abcd567)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 12:29pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/radarbox-airnav-setup-thoughts/61807/3 "2020-03-05T12:29:50Z")

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> [@nikka93](#):
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> The first thing that I noticed is **how hot this dongle became.**

 ![Kool ;)](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/flightaware/original/3X/4/0/40fe3a4af19f0a38a223b65a00a3a4e17ecf296d.jpeg)

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### Author: ![nikka93](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/nikka93/32/111973_2.png) [@nikka93](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/nikka93)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 12:41pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/radarbox-airnav-setup-thoughts/61807/4 "2020-03-05T12:41:20Z")

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Hi man, still not feeding until the all setup will be permanent.  
I’ve already used the tool in the thread, those are the results ad different altitudes

 ![Schermata 2020-03-05 alle 13.37.55](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/flightaware/original/3X/d/0/d0b9bef4227f58732e098b969645599fe8843bad.png) ![Schermata 2020-03-05 alle 13.36.36](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/flightaware/original/3X/f/8/f830bebe4ef437d943be72577c9b86a3b15b3450.png) ![Schermata 2020-03-05 alle 13.36.15](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/flightaware/original/3X/5/8/58402e5ded73c3aa23a47d3719449d286b78f0fa.png)

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### Author: ![nikka93](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/nikka93/32/111973_2.png) [@nikka93](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/nikka93)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 12:41pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/radarbox-airnav-setup-thoughts/61807/5 "2020-03-05T12:41:56Z")

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I opened the case and leaved it open with small heatsinks on chip and 3 other on the bottom part of the pcb

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### Author: ![wiedehopf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/wiedehopf/32/114045_2.png) [@wiedehopf](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/wiedehopf)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/radarbox-airnav-setup-thoughts/61807/6 "2020-03-05T14:01:45Z")

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You can also add the max range as an overlay, see only point 11 of this post:  
[Bake a Pi](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/bake-a-pi/19886/3)

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### Author: ![nikka93](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/nikka93/32/111973_2.png) [@nikka93](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/nikka93)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/radarbox-airnav-setup-thoughts/61807/7 "2020-03-05T19:32:00Z")

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done it now.

Shortening the coax cable by 2 or 3 meters could be a significant improvement? ( Stock is 10m)

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### Author: ![wiedehopf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/wiedehopf/32/114045_2.png) [@wiedehopf](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/wiedehopf)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/radarbox-airnav-setup-thoughts/61807/8 "2020-03-05T19:35:46Z")

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> [@nikka93](#):
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> Shortening the coax cable by 2 or 3 meters could be a significant improvement? ( Stock is 10m)

All depends of the loss the coax has, which depends on the specific product.

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### Author: ![nikka93](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/nikka93/32/111973_2.png) [@nikka93](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/nikka93)
#### Post date: [March 9, 2020, 11:18am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/radarbox-airnav-setup-thoughts/61807/9 "2020-03-09T11:18:48Z")

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there is this table on the coax: _8252m_

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### Author: ![nikka93](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/nikka93/32/111973_2.png) [@nikka93](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/nikka93)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/radarbox-airnav-setup-thoughts/61807/10 "2020-03-21T17:04:31Z")

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this thing really runs hot, i wired up a DS18B20 to check temps every 1min.  
I mounted a small heatsink ( the one for the small usb chip for RPi) and…

Those are the results:

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