# Pilot/Controller communication

**URL:** <https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [January 19, 2007, 6:34pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756 "2007-01-19T18:34:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Talon11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c77e96/32.png) [@Talon11](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/Talon11)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 6:34pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/1 "2007-01-19T18:34:50Z")

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Is it possible to monitor pilot/controller communication while you’re tracking a flight?

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**Author:** ![Newark777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/54ee81/32.png) [@Newark777](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/Newark777)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 6:40pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/2 "2007-01-19T18:40:39Z")

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Your best bet would be [http://www.liveatc.net/](http://www.liveatc.net/) if you don’t have your own scanner.

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**Author:** ![damiross](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@damiross](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/damiross)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 6:56pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/3 "2007-01-19T18:56:50Z")

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Just remember that [liveatc.net](http://liveatc.net) doesn’t cover all of the USA, Canada, or even Nauru. Also remember that there is a delay of about 5-6 minutes so if, for example, you hear an aircraft given take-off approval, that aircraft will still show as not departed for several minutes on FlightAware.

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**Author:** ![Talon11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c77e96/32.png) [@Talon11](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/Talon11)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 7:53pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/4 "2007-01-19T19:53:35Z")

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The flight was into ATL. I was able to to monitor the approach and landing at [www.atcmonitor.com](http://www.atcmonitor.com)

Thanx for the replys!

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**Author:** ![planeaholic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/planeaholic/32/130535_2.png) [@planeaholic](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/planeaholic)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 8:43pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/5 "2007-01-19T20:43:22Z")

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> [@damiross](#):
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> Just remember that [liveatc.net](http://liveatc.net) doesn’t cover all of the USA, Canada, or even Nauru. Also remember that there is a delay of about 5-6 minutes so if, for example, you hear an aircraft given take-off approval, that aircraft will still show as not departed for several minutes on FlightAware.

Maybe you should specify that the delay is on _FlightAware,_ not on [liveatc.net](http://liveatc.net) (as far as I know anyway). It just looked as though you were inferring that the delay was on liveatc. [Sitting down and shutting up now] 😃

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**Author:** ![damiross](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@damiross](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/damiross)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/6 "2007-01-19T21:03:42Z")

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> [@planeaholic](#):
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> > [@damiross](#):
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> > Just remember that [liveatc.net](http://liveatc.net) doesn’t cover all of the USA, Canada, or even Nauru. Also remember that there is a delay of about 5-6 minutes so if, for example, you hear an aircraft given take-off approval, that aircraft will still show as not departed for several minutes on FlightAware.
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> Maybe you should specify that the delay is on _FlightAware,_ not on [liveatc.net](http://liveatc.net) (as far as I know anyway). It just looked as though you were inferring that the delay was on liveatc. [Sitting down and shutting up now] 😃

I made a bad mistake - I figured newbies and others would have actually read the FAQ’s and seen that there was a delay on FlightAware due to FAA constraints. Therefore, my statement above was just a reminder.

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**Author:** ![Newark777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/54ee81/32.png) [@Newark777](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/Newark777)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 9:24pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/7 "2007-01-19T21:24:56Z")

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> [@planeaholic](#):
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> Maybe you should specify that the delay is on _FlightAware,_ not on [liveatc.net](http://liveatc.net) (as far as I know anyway). It just looked as though you were inferring that the delay was on liveatc. [Sitting down and shutting up now] 😃

There’s a slight delay on LiveATC, but it’s no more than 30 seconds (determined through listening to my scanner and the feed at the same time 😉), but it’s caused by the signal having to come from the host scanner, through the servers, and back over the internet. It’s not a purposely imposed delay by LiveATC.

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**Author:** ![planeaholic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/planeaholic/32/130535_2.png) [@planeaholic](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/planeaholic)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 2:03pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/8 "2007-01-20T14:03:09Z")

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> [@Newark777](#):
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> There’s a slight delay on LiveATC, but it’s no more than 30 seconds

I figured so much, with all the travelling that the info (signal, sound, whatever) does before it gets to my computer.

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**Author:** ![CessnaCitationX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e480ec/32.png) [@CessnaCitationX](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/CessnaCitationX)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/9 "2007-01-20T18:09:45Z")

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How do you get live ATC on [http://www.liveatc.net](http://www.liveatc.net)? When I click on the Listen Live button, it doesn’t do anything. I find this very frustrating.

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**Author:** ![Newark777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/54ee81/32.png) [@Newark777](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/Newark777)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 6:16pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/10 "2007-01-20T18:16:20Z")

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> [@CessnaCitationX](#):
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> How do you get live ATC on [http://www.liveatc.net](http://www.liveatc.net)? When I click on the Listen Live button, it doesn’t do anything. I find this very frustrating.

I click on either the LISTEN button or the airport title, and it automatically opens in Windows Media Player. If that doesn’t work, try right clicking and saving the file to your desktop, and opening it from there.

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**Author:** ![CessnaCitationX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e480ec/32.png) [@CessnaCitationX](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/CessnaCitationX)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/11 "2007-01-20T18:39:34Z")

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When I did that and opened the file it opened up on iTunes but I couldn’t play it.

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**Author:** ![Newark777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/54ee81/32.png) [@Newark777](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/Newark777)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 6:42pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/12 "2007-01-20T18:42:33Z")

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> [@CessnaCitationX](#):
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> When I did that and opened the file it opened up on iTunes but I couldn’t play it.

I’ve played the feeds in iTunes and WMP, so that’s odd. Try opening it up in WMP.

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**Author:** ![lieberma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58f4c7/32.png) [@lieberma](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/lieberma)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 7:35pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/13 "2007-01-20T19:35:52Z")

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> [@CessnaCitationX](#):
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> When I did that and opened the file it opened up on iTunes but I couldn’t play it.

Check your “file associations”. Sounds like Itunes hijacked that type of file.

You don’t say what operating system you have, but generically speaking the following “should” work.

[support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/320033](http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/320033)

While the article references Windows 2000, the steps going on memory are the same in XP (I have Vista on my home machine).

Allen

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**Author:** ![Boeing7475500](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/46a35a/32.png) [@Boeing7475500](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/Boeing7475500)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 8:57pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/14 "2007-01-20T20:57:18Z")

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It isn’t live on [liveatc.net](http://liveatc.net) is it? I’ve opened it and had my scanner on at the same time and there was around a 10 sec. delay on every transmission.

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**Author:** ![Newark777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/54ee81/32.png) [@Newark777](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/Newark777)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 9:14pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/15 "2007-01-20T21:14:46Z")

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> [@Boeing7475500](#):
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> It isn’t live on [liveatc.net](http://liveatc.net) is it? I’ve opened it and had my scanner on at the same time and there was around a 10 sec. delay on every transmission.

Scroll up to my earlier reply. 😉

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**Author:** ![Boeing7475500](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/46a35a/32.png) [@Boeing7475500](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/Boeing7475500)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 12:37am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/16 "2007-01-21T00:37:28Z")

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My bad my bad… Still why do they get the title LIVE?

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**Author:** ![Newark777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/54ee81/32.png) [@Newark777](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/Newark777)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 1:21am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/17 "2007-01-21T01:21:04Z")

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> [@Boeing7475500](#):
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> My bad my bad… Still why do they get the title LIVE?

Because they want to. And it is basically live, a delay that small doesn’t mean much.

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**Author:** ![cfijames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b487fb/32.png) [@cfijames](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/cfijames)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 2:31am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/18 "2007-01-21T02:31:53Z")

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The feed is uploaded live, it takes a few seconds to convert the radio signal to digital, transmit the information to the person’s ISP, then over to the LiveATC servers, then to your ISP, then to your computer, and then for your computer to convert the information into electronic signals to send to the speakers. For all practical purposes, it is live.

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**Author:** ![88nitro305](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ac91a4/32.png) [@88nitro305](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/88nitro305)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 3:20pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/19 "2007-01-22T15:20:20Z")

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I don’t think that Liveatc is on a delay. I listen in to BTV and I can pop my head in the window and see the planes takeoff right after they clear them.

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**Author:** ![Boeing7475500](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/46a35a/32.png) [@Boeing7475500](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/Boeing7475500)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/pilot-controller-communication/2756/20 "2007-01-22T20:44:17Z")

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> [@88nitro305](#):
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> I don’t think that Liveatc is on a delay. I listen in to BTV and I can pop my head in the window and see the planes takeoff right after they clear them.

Figure a 20 sec. delay. From holding short, to taxiing on to the runway, going through last check list, and applying power.

… Why can’t I find an image anywhere that is less than 16 kb?

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