# Mooney's new CEO

**URL:** <https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264>\
**Category:** General Aviation\
**Created:** [September 28, 2008, 1:14am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264 "2008-09-28T01:14:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jgona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jgona](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/jgona)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 1:14am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/1 "2008-09-28T01:14:58Z")

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A good article from Aero News on the new CEO:  
[aero-news.net/index.cfm?Cont … d92834616&](http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=12fa3bc3-b352-46f6-9780-aa7d92834616&)

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**Author:** ![wazzu90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bc79bd/32.png) [@wazzu90](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/wazzu90)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 2:22am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/2 "2008-09-28T02:22:39Z")

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Would you buy an airplane from a boat salesman?

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**Author:** ![jgona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jgona](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/jgona)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 3:44am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/3 "2008-09-28T03:44:35Z")

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> [@wazzu90](#):
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> Would you buy an airplane from a boat salesman?

No, but I would from a caveman.

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**Author:** ![nano404](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/nano404/32/41335_2.png) [@nano404](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/nano404)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/4 "2008-09-28T18:51:21Z")

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> [@wazzu90](#):
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> Would you buy an airplane from a boat salesman?

Doesn’t take much to collect a check every month and sign some papers…

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**Author:** ![jgona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jgona](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/jgona)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 11:09pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/5 "2008-09-28T23:09:59Z")

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> [@nano404](#):
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> > [@wazzu90](#):
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> > Would you buy an airplane from a boat salesman?
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> Doesn’t take much to collect a check every month and sign some papers…

I think it is irrelevant where he was before. My guess is that Mooney brought him to make them money, which means using his knowledge to set a price on the planes, make the company leaner etc. He may know nothing about airplanes but has has to have some business knowledge. I mean, I really hope the CEO’s of these companies aern’t just figures that do nothing. And the fact that Mooney brought him in suggests some confidence in him to maximixe profits and sell more planes.

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**Author:** ![wazzu90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bc79bd/32.png) [@wazzu90](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/wazzu90)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 1:03am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/6 "2008-09-29T01:03:56Z")

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> [@jgona](#):
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> > [@nano404](#):
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> > > [@wazzu90](#):
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> > > Would you buy an airplane from a boat salesman?
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> Doesn’t take much to collect a check every month and sign some papers…
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> I think it is irrelevant where he was before. My guess is that Mooney brought him to make them money, which means using his knowledge to set a price on the planes, make the company leaner etc. He may know nothing about airplanes but has has to have some business knowledge. I mean, I really hope the CEO’s of these companies aern’t just figures that do nothing. And the fact that Mooney brought him in suggests some confidence in him to maximixe profits and sell more planes.

That’s been their theory on the last 10 CEO’s.

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**Author:** ![mrhelio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@mrhelio](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/mrhelio)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/7 "2008-10-03T11:17:03Z")

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No matter how much business savvy you have as CEO, you can’t sell spam cans that can’t carry anything…The Mooney no matter how fast it is, is way over priced for what you get…no payload!!

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**Author:** ![jgona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jgona](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/jgona)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/8 "2008-10-03T22:59:29Z")

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> [@mrhelio](#):
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> No matter how much business savvy you have as CEO, you can’t sell spam cans that can’t carry anything…The Mooney no matter how fast it is, is way over priced for what you get…no payload!!

I don’t think they are overpriced anymore. They are competitive with the Cirrus and Cessna’s.

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**Author:** ![mrhelio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@mrhelio](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/mrhelio)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 11:16pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/9 "2008-10-03T23:16:13Z")

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I was being sassy!!!

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**Author:** ![wingnut7eca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e68b1a/32.png) [@wingnut7eca](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/wingnut7eca)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/10 "2008-10-13T04:09:19Z")

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> [@mrhelio](#):
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> No matter how much business savvy you have as CEO, you can’t sell spam cans that can’t carry anything…The Mooney no matter how fast it is, is way over priced for what you get…no payload!!

Owned and flown a 1995 Ovation, and I’ve owned and flown a Diamond Star, Both nice airplanes, but still in 30 years I know a Mooney is not going to fail from fatigue. No one can say what a new “plastic” airplane will do when it’s been around three or four decades.

Plastic airplanes are nice flying machines when brand new, but they don’t dent and show stress like wrinkles or popped rivets, how can you inspect an old plastic airplane for evidence of a hard life?

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**Author:** ![mrhelio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@mrhelio](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/mrhelio)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 11:00am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/11 "2008-10-13T11:00:46Z")

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If Mooney could add more cabin space they would have a potent airplane, they are fast and have sufficient range

I like the Ovation, but the company has issues, too many CEO’s

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**Author:** ![wazzu90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bc79bd/32.png) [@wazzu90](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/wazzu90)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 6:04am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/12 "2008-10-14T06:04:06Z")

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> [@mrhelio](#):
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> If Mooney could add more cabin space they would have a potent airplane, they are fast and have sufficient range
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> I like the Ovation, but the company has issues, too many CEO’s

Would you like pressurization with that?  
[http://www.mooneyevents.com/images/TNMust2.jpg](http://www.mooneyevents.com/images/TNMust2.jpg)

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**Author:** ![mrhelio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@mrhelio](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/mrhelio)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 10:54am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/13 "2008-10-14T10:54:35Z")

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The infamous M22 Mooney Mustang, too many problems with that airplane. It was introduced in 1966. The right idea at the wrong time.

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**Author:** ![jgona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jgona](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/jgona)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/14 "2008-10-14T22:41:20Z")

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> [@mrhelio](#):
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> If Mooney could add more cabin space they would have a potent airplane, they are fast and have sufficient range
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> I like the Ovation, but the company has issues, too many CEO’s

Aviation is full of compromise. If they increase the cabin space, the efficiency of the plane goes down. It’s all a matter of recognizing your values. I would take a smaller cabin over a bigger one due to the increased fuel efficiencies and speeds.

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**Author:** ![mrhelio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@mrhelio](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/mrhelio)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 10:51pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/15 "2008-10-14T22:51:41Z")

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> [@jgona](#):
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> > If Mooney could add more cabin space they would have a potent airplane, they are fast and have sufficient range
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> > I like the Ovation, but the company has issues, too many CEO’s
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> Aviation is full of compromise. If they increase the cabin space, the efficiency of the plane goes down. It’s all a matter of recognizing your values. I would take a smaller cabin over a bigger one due to the increased fuel efficiencies and speeds.

Agreed, but you only have to look at the Epic LT/Dynasty to see form and fuction in a class of efficient, speedy travel

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**Author:** ![sternone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@sternone](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/sternone)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 1:41pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/16 "2008-10-15T13:41:43Z")

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The Epic planes burns WAAAAAYYY more fuel than a mooney…

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**Author:** ![azav8r](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/azav8r/32/79324_2.png) [@azav8r](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/azav8r)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 3:58pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/17 "2008-10-15T15:58:26Z")

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> [@sternone](#):
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> The Epic planes burns WAAAAAYYY more fuel than a mooney…

Yes…they do. But the LT/Dynasty is WAAAAAYYY bigger, and WAAAAAYYY faster… 😒

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**Author:** ![sternone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@sternone](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/sternone)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 4:00pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/18 "2008-10-15T16:00:29Z")

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That’s true also … ☹

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**Author:** ![deef1999](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@deef1999](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/deef1999)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/19 "2008-10-15T16:07:50Z")

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> [@azav8r](#):
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> > The Epic planes burns WAAAAAYYY more fuel than a mooney…
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> Yes…they do. But the LT/Dynasty is WAAAAAYYY bigger, and WAAAAAYYY faster… 😒

You forgot about WAAAAAAAAAAY more expensive 😒

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**Author:** ![azav8r](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/azav8r/32/79324_2.png) [@azav8r](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/azav8r)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/mooneys-new-ceo/6264/20 "2008-10-15T16:17:32Z")

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> [@deef1999](#):
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> You forgot about WAAAAAAAAAAY more expensive 😒

You get what you pay for…

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