# Missing Aircraft **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [October 29, 2007, 4:30pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091 "2007-10-29T16:30:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jphazen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@jphazen](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/jphazen)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 4:30pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/1 "2007-10-29T16:30:01Z")
I am looking for a 2004 AMD Alarus CH2000 last seen at American Falls Airport, Idaho. Tail # N652AM Any information regarding it’s location please contact me. Thank You. John Paul Hazen Transportation Security Inspector U.S. Department of Homeland Security Transportation Security Administration State of Idaho Office - 208-338-8219 Cell 208-484-3727 Semper Fidelis ---
**Author:** ![lancasterperch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/lancasterperch/32/109770_2.png) [@lancasterperch](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/lancasterperch)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 4:40pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/2 "2007-10-29T16:40:29Z")
😮 ---
**Author:** ![cfijames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b487fb/32.png) [@cfijames](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/cfijames)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/3 "2007-10-29T16:46:35Z")
Stolen aircraft are not as rare as one might think, but are almost always considered a ‘big deal’, even if it is just a hunk-a-junk alarus. ---
**Author:** ![damiross](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@damiross](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/damiross)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 5:17pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/4 "2007-10-29T17:17:30Z")
Hadn’t heard of this type of aircraft so I did a search on it. The website is located at [newplane.com/amd/amd/products/ch2000.html](http://www.newplane.com/amd/amd/products/ch2000.html) Here’s an [article](http://www.kidk.com/news/10704996.html) on the missing aircraft. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/flightaware/original/3X/2/6/26de2e667b36e2bdd2860ce4fd8ead53d9b35f0d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![flygirljc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flygirljc](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/flygirljc)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 5:26pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/5 "2007-10-29T17:26:04Z")
OH MY GOSH - THE FEDS ARE HERE - RUN FOR COVER!!! Big Brother always sees what we’re doing… 8) 😊 lperch - google those eyes back in - he may be a Marine too… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jphazen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@jphazen](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/jphazen)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/6 "2007-10-29T17:28:20Z")
Not only a FED but yes a Marine too!!! Semper Fi brothers! ---
**Author:** ![flygirljc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flygirljc](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/flygirljc)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 5:30pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/7 "2007-10-29T17:30:39Z")
Well - there you go Paul - we already found the 2 guys - don’t you see them flying in the plane - go chase em now - you might just be able to catch em… Good job FA for showing that agent those 2 theives flying the plane away - bet he can catch them now!!! Not funny eh Inspector Hazen (hazen - they get put in jail for doing that in Oklahoma at the universities)… 😢 ---
**Author:** ![flygirljc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flygirljc](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/flygirljc)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 5:31pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/8 "2007-10-29T17:31:56Z")
> [@jphazen](#): > > Not only a FED but yes a Marine too!!! Semper Fi brothers! Hey - watch it - I’m you sister… 8) ---
**Author:** ![jphazen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@jphazen](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/jphazen)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/9 "2007-10-29T17:44:17Z")
we’re all brother in arms… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![flygirljc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flygirljc](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/flygirljc)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 6:27pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/10 "2007-10-29T18:27:19Z")
> [@jphazen](#): > > we’re all brother in arms… 🙂 I wish I were in some brother’s arms but not in war (peace time always)… 😊 So much for the Israeli army/military… 😢 ---
**Author:** ![EatSleepJeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9dc877/32.png) [@EatSleepJeep](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/EatSleepJeep)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 10:24pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/11 "2007-11-19T22:24:30Z")
> [@cfijames](#): > > Stolen aircraft are not as rare as one might think, but are almost always considered a ‘big deal’, even if it is just a hunk-a-junk alarus. Any idea on the recovery rate? Unless you change the registration number, the aircraft would be recognized pretty quickly, I would think… ---
**Author:** ![cfijames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b487fb/32.png) [@cfijames](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/cfijames)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 10:40pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/12 "2007-11-19T22:40:30Z")
> [@EatSleepJeep](#): > > Unless you change the registration number, the aircraft would be recognized pretty quickly, I would think… If a thief wants to remain incognito a few mylar decals can change the visible registration in a few minutes. If N385JM flies into Back Swamp County airport for fuel is the line guy going to question it? Unlikely. A thief would be incredibly stupid to use the stolen aircraft’s N-number in ATC communications. Simple enough. I used to know a guy who flew his Champ all over the east coast many years ago and always used a buddy’s n-number on the radio. His buddy only caught on when he started getting landing fees in the mail! (I do not endorse this sort of activity.) ---
**Author:** ![NeedleNose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/needlenose/32/86946_2.png) [@NeedleNose](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/NeedleNose)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 11:00pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/13 "2007-11-19T23:00:05Z")
> [@jphazen](#): > > I am looking for a 2004 AMD Alarus CH2000 last seen at American Falls Airport, Idaho. Tail # N652AM I’ll keep my eyes out for it. Chances are the theives flew it to a private strip and repainted it. Any idea where an identifying serial number can be seen from outside the plane, and what that number would be? ---
**Author:** ![damiross](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@damiross](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/damiross)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 11:37pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/14 "2007-11-19T23:37:53Z")
> [@NeedleNose](#): > > > [@jphazen](#): > > > > I am looking for a 2004 AMD Alarus CH2000 last seen at American Falls Airport, Idaho. Tail # N652AM > > I’ll keep my eyes out for it. Chances are the theives flew it to a private strip and repainted it. Any idea where an identifying serial number can be seen from outside the plane, and what that number would be? Maybe there’s a serial number on the tail. Beech aircraft have this feature - not sure how many other manufacturers do this. ---
**Author:** ![cfijames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b487fb/32.png) [@cfijames](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/cfijames)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 1:46am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/15 "2007-11-20T01:46:16Z")
I think most aircraft have a data plate visible somewhere on the exterior, though sometimes they are hidden inside a doorway opening or panel. And no, I have not found regulatory evidence backing up my claim. ---
**Author:** ![azav8r](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/azav8r/32/79324_2.png) [@azav8r](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/azav8r)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 5:40am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/16 "2007-11-20T05:40:59Z")
The requirements of the display of an aircraft data plate are found here: [CFR Title 14, Part 45.11](http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=4d8be187ebe92431b569a14b4226294e&rgn=div8&view=text&node=14:1.0.1.3.22.2.363.1&idno=14) Which basically states that: > the aircraft identification plate must be secured to the aircraft fuselage exterior so that it is legible to a person on the ground, and must be either adjacent to and aft of the rear-most entrance door or on the fuselage surface near the tail surfaces. ---
**Author:** ![HancockAviation](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/hancockaviation/32/119078_2.png) [@HancockAviation](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/HancockAviation)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 5:47am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/17 "2007-11-20T05:47:08Z")
I would really be mad if my airplane was stolen. If there is anything I can do to help let me know. Holton 😃 ---
**Author:** ![wazzu90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bc79bd/32.png) [@wazzu90](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/wazzu90)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 8:59am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/18 "2007-11-20T08:59:33Z")
Do they make “The Club” for planes? ---
**Author:** ![JHEM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/jhem/32/9683_2.png) [@JHEM](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/JHEM)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 3:23pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/19 "2007-11-20T15:23:16Z")
> [@wazzu90](#): > > Do they make “The Club” for planes? Sort of. [The Proplock!](http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/proplock.php) ---
**Author:** ![NeedleNose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/needlenose/32/86946_2.png) [@NeedleNose](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/NeedleNose)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 4:05pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091/20 "2007-11-20T16:05:53Z")
> [@wazzu90](#): > > Do they make “The Club” for planes? [OTHER SECURITY DEVICES](http://www.sportys.com/acb/showprod.cfm?&DID=19&CATID=177&ObjectGroup_ID=1332) [Next page](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/missing-aircraft/4091.md?page=2)