# lazy flightplanning?

**URL:** <https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/lazy-flightplanning/3113>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [March 25, 2007, 6:26pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/lazy-flightplanning/3113 "2007-03-25T18:26:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![IanNic64](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/iannic64/32/117270_2.png) [@IanNic64](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/IanNic64)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2007, 6:26pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/lazy-flightplanning/3113/1 "2007-03-25T18:26:33Z")

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Had to chuckle - we’ve had the KANC (Anchorage) and KHNL (Honolulu) ICAO mis-idents but just heard N300TN on live atc departing KSNA cancelling IFR going enroute, check the destination on todays flight!

[flightaware.com/live/flight/N300TN](http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N300TN)

Original.

IN (UK)

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**Author:** ![jreeves](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/jreeves/32/52620_2.png) [@jreeves](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/jreeves)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 11:58am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/lazy-flightplanning/3113/2 "2007-03-26T11:58:10Z")

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Isn’t that the airport where the runway rises up to meet you and the wind is always at your back (except on final)?

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**Author:** ![CAFlier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@CAFlier](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/CAFlier)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/lazy-flightplanning/3113/3 "2007-03-26T18:21:50Z")

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I always wondered how they filed a clearance of IFR to VFR on top, that must be it.

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**Author:** ![mduell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/mduell/32/115680_2.png) [@mduell](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/mduell)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 7:28pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/lazy-flightplanning/3113/4 "2007-03-26T19:28:35Z")

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This seems to be the way ATC puts IFR-to-VFR-on-top flights (with no intention of continuing IFR) into the system. We see about 3 flights a day to ‘KVFR’, mostly from the Flight International (IVJ) fleet.