G-IV landing with zero flaps


#1

Saw N936MP on approach today, noticed it seemed to be coming in pretty damn fast then I looked at the pictures later and it looks like no flaps are extended…
flightaware.com/photos/aircraft/ … ate/page/1

Any of you G-drivers ever done this? if so, why?


#2

Any idea what time approximately he landed??, you can go to liveatc archives and listen to his arrival - all times in GMT.

liveatc.net/archive.php


#3

archive-server.liveatc.net/ksat/ … -1630Z.mp3

Nothing stated out of the ordinary, Jetspeed936 was the call sign, can here them at 19:49, 21:50, 22:51.

Just thought it was out of the ordinary to land without flaps, made for a good bounce and extra tire smoke :wink:


#4

Hmmm - maybe somebody was doing a type rating or training???


#5

Training or a malfunction would be my guess. Even if it was a mechanical problem, you probably would never know it. Not an emergency per se, just abnormal


#6

We do it in the simulator every year. Approximately double the landing distance and go for it.


#7

How much more airspeed is needed, zero vs. full flaps? just from watching I’d have to guess this one was moving 35-40 kts faster than another G-IV that landed moments later.


#8

Don’t I know it. I’m about to spend 3 days in ILM in the box. I can feel the ground school sleepies already!


#9

If all works out- I’ll be in the G-IV sim next month…


#10

Oh man, that session right between signing in and collecting your paperwork is the worst.

The G2 is +25 with 0 flaps.


#11

That’s slower then the little lear +30


#12

Yep. After the first 3 days of recurrent, it gets much better. :wink:


#13

5 for going from flaps 39 to 20, I don’t know if the later G3/4 wing is the same or not. So you’ve decided on the 4?