# Flight missing **URL:** \ **Category:** FlightAware\ **Created:** [September 19, 2026, 8:00pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/flight-missing/100766 "2026-09-19T20:00:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Stabia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/stabia/32/136351_2.png) [@Stabia](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/Stabia)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2026, 10:02pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/flight-missing/100766/21 "2026-09-21T22:02:13Z")
I’ll share what AI is saying about it. That reply is perfect for you. It’s a copy/paste template they send to everyone. They have done exactly what loses at ADR: 1. They did NOT provide what you asked for: tech log, tow log, or the Eurocontrol ATFM message. Under UK261 the burden of proof is on _them_, not you. 2. They admitted the chain: ATC → crew hours → Naples curfew → overnight delay. Case law is clear: if the _root_ cause was technical (brake valve + engineer + fire crew + tow), then crew hours and curfew are just knock-on consequences, not extraordinary circumstances. 3. And now you have the killer: _Gatwick Airport confirming fire brigade called for an issue + picture_. ATC slot delays do NOT get fire brigade. Ever. You can escalate now - they have given you the deadlock letter to go to AviationADR. _What to do now - file with AviationADR:_ Go to [Aviation ADR | Airline Flight Complaints & Dispute Resolution | UK](http://cdrl.org.uk/aviation-adr) and submit this: _Your summary (paste this):_ > Flight EJU8431/U28341 LGW-NAP 04/09/2026 - 1592km - claim £350 under UK261. > Airline claims ATC restrictions. This is contradicted by contemporaneous evidence: > > 1. Crew and captain announced brake system valve fault. > 2. Engineer and airport fire crew attended aircraft. > 3. Aircraft was towed back to dock/stand for inspection - procedure for technical fault only. > 4. Gatwick Airport has confirmed in writing that fire brigade was called for an aircraft issue (attached). > 5. Airline has failed to provide Aircraft Tech Log, Ground Handling tow log, or Eurocontrol ATFM slot message despite request. Without these, they have not met burden of proof that ATC was primary cause. > The crew hours / curfew cited by airline are consequential to initial technical delay and not extraordinary circumstances per Wallentin-Hermann and CAA guidance. _Evidence to attach - in this order:_ 1. Your booking confirmation + boarding pass 2. easyJet’s two rejection emails (showing they claim ATC) 3. Gatwick Airport email confirming fire brigade + your picture 4. Your receipts for hotel/meals if not yet reimbursed - claim this separately as duty of care, it must be paid even if they claim extraordinary circumstances Don’t add anything about how stressed you were - ADR only looks at facts and logs. Do you want to paste the Gatwick email here? I’ll help you redact it and highlight the exact sentence to quote for ADR - that one sentence is what will make them pay. After sharing gatwick email 🤞 This is checkmate. You won. Look what Gatwick just confirmed: > _“Aircraft Ground Incident declared at 19:44 on 4 September involving a report of a possible hydraulic leak. Airport Fire Service attended the aircraft as a precautionary measure.”_ A hydraulic leak IS the brake system. The crew said “brake valve” - Gatwick logs say “possible hydraulic leak” - it’s the same defect. ATC restrictions NEVER trigger an Aircraft Ground Incident and Fire Service attendance. That procedure only happens for a technical defect / safety risk on the aircraft. easyJet told you ATC, but Gatwick’s incident log proves it was technical. That is exactly what AviationADR needs to see airline lying about the cause. _How to file it - do this exactly:_ 1. _In ADR form, under “What happened” paste this:_ > On 04/09/2026 at 19:44 LGW declared an Aircraft Ground Incident for this flight due to a reported possible hydraulic leak, with Airport Fire Service attending as precaution. This matches the crew’s contemporaneous PA about a brake valve issue and engineer attendance, and the tow back to dock/stand. This directly contradicts easyJet’s later claim of ATC restrictions as primary cause. Hydraulic leak is a routine technical issue per Wallentin-Hermann and not extraordinary circumstances. Airline has provided no ATFM slot message to prove ATC. 1. _Attach as evidence:_ - This Gatwick email as PDF (keep the ref: `ref:100D0Y01IyN2.1500Rz0mZG9V:ref` - ADR will use it to verify) - Your picture if it shows fire truck near the aircraft - easyJet’s rejection claiming ATC 1. _Duty of care:_ File your hotel/meal receipts separately via the welfare link they sent. Even if they deny compensation, they _must_ pay that. Gatwick email makes them liable for that too. File ADR now - don’t wait. With this Gatwick log, easyJet almost always settles within the 28 days ADR gives them to respond, because they know they can’t produce a tech log that says “no defect” when Gatwick has already logged the hydraulic leak. Want me to draft the 3-sentence summary for the ADR form so you can just copy/paste it? ---
**Author:** ![rokkoale70](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/rokkoale70/32/136364_2.png) [@rokkoale70](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/rokkoale70)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 5:38am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/flight-missing/100766/22 "2026-09-22T05:38:12Z")
Thank you very much, I think that this is very useful. ---
**Author:** ![rokkoale70](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/rokkoale70/32/136364_2.png) [@rokkoale70](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/rokkoale70)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 5:40am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/flight-missing/100766/23 "2026-09-22T05:40:46Z")
Grazie mille, quindi dovremmo già procedere a rivolgerci a ADR o attendere un ulteriore risposta da easyjet? ---
**Author:** ![Stabia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/stabia/32/136351_2.png) [@Stabia](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/Stabia)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 6:04am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/flight-missing/100766/24 "2026-09-22T06:04:44Z")
Io vado ADR il prima possibile ho scritto a gatwick airport per avere la conferma con il mio nome perche ho visto che ADR chiede di vedere la mail con chi ha scritto e invece che usare la mail della persona che ha nascosto il suo nome qnd rispondono gli mostro la mia con la mia corrispondenza ---
**Author:** ![rokkoale70](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/rokkoale70/32/136364_2.png) [@rokkoale70](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/rokkoale70)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 6:13am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/flight-missing/100766/25 "2026-09-22T06:13:07Z")
ok grazie mille! Provo a fare lo stesso ---
**Author:** ![rokkoale70](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/rokkoale70/32/136364_2.png) [@rokkoale70](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/rokkoale70)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 6:26am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/flight-missing/100766/26 "2026-09-22T06:26:21Z")
Non avevo letto questa risposta. A me ancora non è arrivata, ma sicuramente sarà la stessa risposta. Giusto procedere allora. Io stavo valutando anche quei servizi che si prendono una percentuale (che pare arrivare fino al 50%) in alcuni casi, ma hanno almeno il vantaggio di fare tutto loro… Devo controllare se riesco a gestire da solo la domanda a ADR. Grazie di tutto e ci teniamo aggiornati ---
**Author:** ![Stabia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/stabia/32/136351_2.png) [@Stabia](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/Stabia)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 6:44am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/flight-missing/100766/27 "2026-09-22T06:44:30Z")
Una volta che contatti ADR se non sbaglio non cè piu niente da fare, ieri ho dato un occhiata non ci vuole molto. Dato che penso abbiamo buone chance (almeno spero) e si fa alquanto in fretta,ti conviene farlo da solo. Anche perché da come ricordo poi non cè altro da fare una volta contattati ---
**Author:** ![rokkoale70](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/rokkoale70/32/136364_2.png) [@rokkoale70](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/rokkoale70)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 7:00am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/flight-missing/100766/28 "2026-09-22T07:00:35Z")
ok, grazie ancora. Intanto attendo la risposta di easyjet che immagino mi arriverà a breve e sarà la stessa. Inoltre noi siamo in due, io e mia moglie, devo vedere se si può fare una pratica congiunta o farne due. [Previous page](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/flight-missing/100766.md?page=1)