# Error ID: 665153

**URL:** <https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535>\
**Category:** Flight Planning\
**Created:** [November 15, 2008, 11:55pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535 "2008-11-15T23:55:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![lieberma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58f4c7/32.png) [@lieberma](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/lieberma)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 11:55pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/1 "2008-11-15T23:55:12Z")

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Error ID: 665153 being encountered as of 5:54 p.m central time. for flight planning.

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**Author:** ![mduell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/mduell/32/115680_2.png) [@mduell](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/mduell)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 12:26am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/2 "2008-11-16T00:26:55Z")

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Unable to find a valid cruise altitude within the limitations of what you specified in the form, available performance data, and elevation of origin/destination.

What were you trying?

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**Author:** ![lieberma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58f4c7/32.png) [@lieberma](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/lieberma)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 12:57am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/3 "2008-11-16T00:57:20Z")

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> [@mduell](#):
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> Unable to find a valid cruise altitude within the limitations of what you specified in the form, available performance data, and elevation of origin/destination.
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> What were you trying?

Entered 20 and 70 as lower and higher flight level limits.

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**Author:** ![mduell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/mduell/32/115680_2.png) [@mduell](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/mduell)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 3:05am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/4 "2008-11-16T03:05:56Z")

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What was the origin/destination and aircraft cruise profile? PM me if you don’t want to say in public.

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**Author:** ![lieberma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58f4c7/32.png) [@lieberma](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/lieberma)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 3:24am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/5 "2008-11-16T03:24:36Z")

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> [@mduell](#):
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> What was the origin/destination and aircraft cruise profile? PM me if you don’t want to say in public.

No problemo in public so others can learn from most likely “user error” on my part 🙂

Below image were my input values.

Tried just before posting and error ID is now 0 rather then 665153

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/flightaware/original/3X/9/8/98a1dd721e9c002267554c661e9be355fcec754a.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![lieberma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58f4c7/32.png) [@lieberma](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/lieberma)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/6 "2008-11-24T16:07:35Z")

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Mark,

Hadn’t heard anything so I tried again, deleted my cruise profile and set it higher then my proposed flight plan just in case that was causing a problem. (both were equal to 7000 so I changed my cruise profile to 8000)

Error code returned 670765

I picked a public aircraft profile and it worked so it has to be something wrong in my setup?

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**Author:** ![mduell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/mduell/32/115680_2.png) [@mduell](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/mduell)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/7 "2008-11-24T21:13:54Z")

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We don’t really understand the root cause of either of the errors you’ve managed to produce; they just shouldn’t happen.

Can you email or fax in a copy of your POH performance data and we’ll be happy to enter it all in for you? I think the root of the error may be related to your single point performance data.

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**Author:** ![pika1000](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/pika1000/32/124076_2.png) [@pika1000](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/pika1000)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 10:43pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/8 "2008-11-24T22:43:19Z")

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> [@mduell](#):
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> We don’t really understand the root cause of either of the errors you’ve managed to produce; they just shouldn’t happen.

aka…“DAMNIT ALLEN! QUIT BREAKING STUFF!!” 😆

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**Author:** ![lieberma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58f4c7/32.png) [@lieberma](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/lieberma)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/9 "2008-11-25T00:41:59Z")

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> [@mduell](#):
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> Can you email or fax in a copy of your POH performance data and we’ll be happy to enter it all in for you? I think the root of the error may be related to your single point performance data.

Sure can Mark. I will swing by the airport the end of this week and grab the POH.

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**Author:** ![lieberma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58f4c7/32.png) [@lieberma](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/lieberma)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 12:42am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/10 "2008-11-25T00:42:41Z")

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> [@pika1000](#):
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> > [@mduell](#):
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> > We don’t really understand the root cause of either of the errors you’ve managed to produce; they just shouldn’t happen.
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> aka…“DAMNIT ALLEN! QUIT BREAKING STUFF!!” 😆

Too funny! And here I thought my middle name was trouble?

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**Author:** ![joelr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecd19e/32.png) [@joelr](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/joelr)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/11 "2009-07-27T22:38:21Z")

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> Sure can Mark. I will swing by the airport the end of this week and grab the POH.

Hey lieberma, I received your email with the POH pages. I will pass them on to Mark and we will compare them to the stats in the system and make any adjustments as necessary.

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**Author:** ![lieberma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58f4c7/32.png) [@lieberma](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/lieberma)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 12:30am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/12 "2009-07-28T00:30:38Z")

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> [@joelr](#):
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> Hey lieberma, I received your email with the POH pages. I will pass them on to Mark and we will compare them to the stats in the system and make any adjustments as necessary.

Thanks Joel!

Next IFR flight I intend to file via FA.

BTW, very appreciative of the “instant” notification that my query was received by the staff.

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**Author:** ![mduell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/mduell/32/115680_2.png) [@mduell](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/mduell)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:14am UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/13 "2009-09-16T04:14:10Z")

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I just found your POH photos on my desk. I’ll get someone to enter them this week.

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**Author:** ![lieberma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58f4c7/32.png) [@lieberma](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/lieberma)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 2:23pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/14 "2009-09-16T14:23:04Z")

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> [@mduell](#):
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> I just found your POH photos on my desk. I’ll get someone to enter them this week.

Thanks Mark,

I won’t be flying this weekend since I will be on an SWA flight to Baltimore (I hope as Jury duty calls for my showing this morning!) for a quick visit up there.

I hope to be back in my flying ways next week, though staring out the window and seeing 600 foot ceilings this morning driving me nuts. 😃

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**Author:** ![lieberma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58f4c7/32.png) [@lieberma](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/lieberma)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/15 "2010-01-27T18:25:02Z")

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I got an email with regards to the new generation flight so I figure to poke in and try and I still cannot get past page one.

I get

Unable to find a valid cruise altitude within the limitations of what you specified in the form, available performance data, and elevation of origin/destination

Thoughts most appreciated. Table shows valid for my performance under aircraft performance entries.

Not sure if browser flavor matters but MSIE 7.0 is what I am using this moment.

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**Author:** ![mduell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discussions.flightaware.com/mduell/32/115680_2.png) [@mduell](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/mduell)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 11:34pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/16 "2010-01-27T23:34:16Z")

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Your performance data is still the issue; it needs a range to interpolate over. And now I’ve lost your POH. Can you fax it over again?

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**Author:** ![lieberma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58f4c7/32.png) [@lieberma](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/lieberma)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/17 "2010-01-27T23:42:41Z")

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> [@mduell](#):
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> Your performance data is still the issue; it needs a range to interpolate over. And now I’ve lost your POH. Can you fax it over again?

Hey Mark,

Images resent to performance@ you know the rest…

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**Author:** ![lieberma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58f4c7/32.png) [@lieberma](https://discussions.flightaware.com/u/lieberma)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/error-id-665153/6535/18 "2010-02-06T15:44:56Z")

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Mark,

Just want to verify images were received? I don’t remember getting a confirmation mail like I did in the past acknowledging receipt?
