No, it’s not a secret. But the registrar/owner of the aircraft is wishing for some level of privacy. Why not give them what they request? It is, in fact, a simple request. Why share it? What are those reasons you speak of? Could you give me a few of these “reasons” you speak of?
I think you could probably google that yourself and learn all about the debate around these things. I’m willing to just ‘agree to disagree’ on it, as opposed to continuing to defend something that I don’t feel needs defending anyways.
You obviously have your reasons. Please. Share. I’d love to know what these reasons are. Why should I google them when there’s an expert about them right here?
There’s little to debate. There’s a presumptions of privacy. You don’t believe that should be private. Why?
Sorry, I’m not interested in a debate, nor is it necessary. Here you go - you win and you’re absolutely right. Ta da!
The fact you bailed on the conversation as you did is quite telling in itself…
Have fun tilting…
There’s no point in arguing it with you - you’ve made up your mind, as have I. Again, we’ll have to agree to disagree. Feel free to start your own thread about how great the BARR list is.
Some flights from 10/28:
N539VE GLF4 registered to Valero Services Inc departed KBOS 2218z arrived KPVD 2236z.
N790Z F2TH registered to International Busines Machines Corp departed KBOS 1935z arrived KHPN 2020z. (Arrived at KBOS from KBWI at 1400z 27OCT)
N850DP H25B registered to ILG Logistics LLC departed KBOS 1918z arrived KILG 2012z.
N899AK HA4T registered to Regis Funding III LLC departed KBOS 1905z as TFF20 arrived KSUA 2140z.
C-DGPF GLEX registered to I.M.P. Group Limited departed KBOS 1849z arrived CYUL 1940z. (arrived at KBOS from CYUL at 1245z)
N78KN HA4T registered to H4T Corp departed KBED 1638z arrived KBOS 1653z
N78KN HA4T registered to H4T Corp departed KBOS 1828z as TFF31 arrived KSLC 2332z.
N234DP CL30 registered to 234DP Aviation LLC departed KBED 2204z arrived KBTV 2241z.
N616KG GLF5 registered to Airkraft One Trust departed KBED 1919z arrived KLGA 1957z.
N888CE F2TH registered to Magic Carpet Enterprises, LLC departed KBED 1911z arrived TIST 2244z.
N744AT C550 registered to AIR Ambulance by Air Trek Inc departed KBED 1838z arrived KPGD 2220z.
N604B CL60 registered to Stream Enterprises LLC departed KBED 1715z arrived KMSP 2003z.
N501MK F900 registered to Merck Sharp & Dohme Corp departed KBED 1257z arrived KIAD 1356z.
N838BA GLF5 registered to Bank of America NA departed KBED 1247z arrived KCLT 1442z.
N448TM E55P registered to EMC Corp departed KBED 1245z arrived KBLM 1336z.
N375SC F900 registered to Steelcase Financial Services departed KBED 1201z arrived KMDW 1425z.
N45JE GL5T registered to Liberty Mutual Insurance Co departed KBED 1116z arrived KBDL 1141z.
Maybe he’s made up his mind, but maybe others have not. I have no horse in the privacy fight. At this point it seems pretty evident that you have some strong feelings about this as you’ve taken it upon yourself, to come up with a method which allows you to see and share some limited information about some blocked flights in a certain area. I admire that you have some gumption and figured that out.
Now, I’m not sure that it is necessary to start another thread about BARR as this thread already discusses blocked flights. A long standing flightaware member asked your reasoning for feeling the way you do. He wasn’t looking for an argument, just a discussion. This happens to be a discussion board. Your bailing on this discussion and suggesting we use google to understand your viewpoint is absurd. If you wish to continue to post flights, which is absolutely your prerogative, please be prepared to discuss the issues and concerns that go along with the information you are posting.
I have no problem discussing it with someone who is interested in an actual discussion and hasn’t already decided that they’re right and I’m wrong. At first the discussion appeared to be about the ‘value’ of this information (the comparison to learning Klingon), which I was interested in discussing. I’m not interested in having a discussion about my moral obligation to keep this information to myself, though. I’m also not a staunch anti-privacy advocate or anything like that. I do happen to feel the BARR list is a little silly since the information is so easily obtainable, but like yourself, I don’t really care strongly one way or another. There are already plenty of threads discussing the matter. I wasn’t suggesting the other poster use google to understand MY viewpoint - he asked for some arguments against flight blocking, and I don’t feel it’s my job to provide him with those. Either way, I’m not a big fan of arguing on the internet, which is often futile, but I don’t think you need to be making a statement about your stance on an issue just to post when a plane took off and where it went. Heck, you could be for strengthening the BARR list and use this thread as an example of why.
If you were posting a spotting report from an airfield, I doubt you would take the time to figure out which planes were blocked and omit those. Please view my posts as being more akin to that. Obviously the flights that aren’t blocked can be easily retrieved via FA, so it wouldn’t make sense to post those. My other interest is just in the ‘is it possible’ question, which as you’ve pointed out, I seem to have proven with my first few posts - although I’m still wondering if someone out there might find this and point out a correction, which would be interesting. As I responded to you earlier, I didn’t intend on keeping this running forever, although with as many people asking for it to continue as there are ambivalent/against it, I’ll keep it going for a little bit. Maybe the poster who is against it can ask them why they like the info?
P.S., thank you for your kind compliment and your reasonable explanation.
Thanks for answering my question. That was all I asked for. Not sure where it went off the rails.
Cheers.
Question, on this one N888CE F2TH departed KBED 1911z arrived TIST 2244z, how do you know it arrived at TIST? Are you still tracking it with your setup that far away or do you get that info from other mode-s trackers in that area?
+1 who appreciates this info.