the reported operating empty weight of the Bombardier CRJ7 is 19,731 kg (43,500 lb). Considering how easy the 380 spun the CRJ7, what damage would have been done to that wing ![]()
http://www.latimes.com/travel/deals/la-trb-a380-jfk-accident-20110412-001,1,1426621.photo
NTSB Pictures up… http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/post/2011/04/air-france-a380-comair-clip-photos/155668/1
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CRJ-700


Traffic Congestion May Have Led to JFK Crash: Report
By Paul DeBenedetto
Federal investigators suspect traffic congestion as a possible cause for Monday’s collision between a jumbo jet and a commuter jet at Kennedy Airport.
According to the Wall Street Journal, congestion in the ramp area may have caused the smaller Comair jet to slow down before following the instructions of an air traffic controller. The Comair jet may have idled itself in a spot where the Air France A-380 didn’t expect it to be, prompting the crash.
Citing people familiar with the matter, the paper said that the investigation will focus on how frequently incoming planes stop in the same spot the Comair plane did, and whether that leaves room enough for other, larger jets to pass.
The National Transportation Safety Board is expected to look at traffic-control tapes and flight-data recording information as it investigates the collision.
Video of the collision shows the wing of the much larger Air France jet clipping the back of the commuter jet, turning it an almost full 90 degrees. All of the Comair’s passengers were evacuated safely, and no one was injured.
According to the Airbus website, A-380 planes are the largest commercial aircraft currently in operation, carrying up to 853 passengers on two decks. Because of this, taxi procedures of U.S. air-traffic controllers usually have strict rules to ensure other aircraft keep a safe distance.
Industry and government officials told the Journal that the accident would not cause any significant changes to current taxi procedures for other airports, but that Kennedy Airport has already begun reviewing their safety policies.
Makes sense.
From looking at the google earth image of the pad where the RJ was heading, it sure looks like an area that could get crowded. That and the video of the ground personnel moving towards the plane as it was hit leads me to believe it “stopped short” and was waiting to be marshaled in.
The above represents the opinion of one random person on the internet and should in no way be considered anything more than that. ![]()
Preliminary NTSB reports:
Air France A380
ComAir CRJ
Thanks.
So it was COM293. Not 553 like the ATC conversation indicated. Interesting the Comair pilot was using the wrong call sign.
I bet that the A380 wing is trashed all the way to the fuselage.
That much energy applied at the maximum moment/arm = very destructive forces.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the fuselage to wing joint/structure is damaged also.

Other Top Gun quotes that fit:
“Goose… do you see a trailer?”
“Wood’s been hit! Wood’s been hit!”
“You… You’re still dangerous… but you can be my… WINGMAN …anytime.”
“How’s it feel to be on the front page of every newspaper in the English-speaking world?”
“You fly jets long enough, something like this is bound to happen.”
“It takes a lot more than just fancy flying”
“Thirty seconds. We went like this, he went like that. I said to Hollywood, ‘Where’d he go?’ Hollywood says, ‘Where’d who go?’”
Really? I would think the fully fueled wing on the A380 weighed more than that little CRJ and inertia would favor the wing.
I’d guess the winglet is designed to fail without overstressing the wing.
Do we know the status of the A380? Is it still at JFK?
From the video if you watch at the bottom of the screen it looks like a service truck is passing in front of the Comair plane. So he may have had to wait a minute for that to clear and got nailed . Seems like a to much congestion on the ramp. Which isn’t unual for JFK is it ?
