ATC and the A380


#1

The new A380 is in the heavy category but will be called a Super when controllers communicate with it. The word Super will be used immediately after the aircraft call sign.


#2

Really? Hmmmm…

It’s SUPER!!!
http://www.birdsinthebelfry.com/AA%20QUEER%20EYE.jpg


#3

So what you’re saying is that when we hear an A380 talking to ATC, we’ll hear something like, “New York Center - Lufthansa 380 SUPER is with you at one five thousand…”


#4

Probably will be more like this…

“NY Center, Lufthansa 587 Super will be with you in a little while, whenever this big POS decides to get somewhere on time…”


#5

Correct on your first try…you need a job?


#6

Not as a controller, thanks. Maybe as a pilot in a year or so…


#7

Then shouldn’t the Antonov or C-5 also get this type of designation?

I’ll believe this urban legend only after my 7110.65 gets changed…


#8

FAA Notice 7110.464 Effcetive 3-1-07. Covers the call sign and use of SUPER. Separartion changes also. Transitioning terminal airspace 10 miles, heavy behind a super 6 miles, large 8 and small 10. Visual separation cannot be used.

No urban legend here.


#9

Ouch!!!

Thank you. I breathlessly await my FAA Orders update in the mail…

But it still makes no sense…


#10

It will be super if they ever get it delivered.


#11

Interesting I haven’t heard anything about this. Thought the fact that they haven’t bothered to tell us isn’t that surprising.


#12

Its on its way to KJFK… get your trackers and live atc feeds up and running.


#13

Who’s got a flight number? I just checked all airborne aircraft by aircraft type. There is no A38x in the FA system yet.

That makes a bit of sense since the FAA is rather lax in adding European-originating departure messages into their ATC system. I’ve seen many AAL flights from Europe to KDFW on the radar map without an aircraft-type tag. Sure enough, on the flight tracker, they haven’t left yet. Still, they’re only about 80 miles from their destination, according to radar tracking.

I think that’s likely to be the only way to catch the A380 before it lands today – to find it on the KJFK radar map. And that’s why the flight number is important – because you won’t see an “A380” on the map when you see the plane.


#14

DLH8940

For ATC, www.liveatc.net, KJFK feed is up.


#15

It just started showing a few minutes ago.

Still not showing under aircraft by type (A388).