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Illyushin Il-78 Finally Departs Texas...But What's it Doing?
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WhiskeyNovember



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:47 pm    Post subject: Illyushin Il-78 Finally Departs Texas...But What's it Doing? Reply with quote

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N78GF

It was filed to OSH, but it diverted to SAW after reaching Wisconsin.

Does anyone have any idea what it's up to? Making its way to Airventure 2009, perhaps?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:48 pm    Post subject: il-78 n78gf Reply with quote

landed this morning at SAW around 10:30am,,after being diverted from OSH, rumor is that it is grounded for an undetermined amount of time

pictures I took this morning are posted at http://cu.miningjournal.net/pages/gallery.php?gallery=301148
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: il-78 n78gf Reply with quote

jeagle wrote:
landed this morning at SAW around 10:30am,,after being diverted from OSH, rumor is that it is grounded for an undetermined amount of time

pictures I took this morning are posted at http://cu.miningjournal.net/pages/gallery.php?gallery=301148


Why that diversion? It probably wasn't mechanical, at least nothing serious, or they wouldn't have flown past Oshkosh.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aha!
http://www.miningjournal.net/page/content.detail/id/530499.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a little more info,

http://www.uppermichiganssource.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=326195

TV6 reports on tonights newscast that all 5 detained had visas that expired on the July 1st
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's still a very Question situation. The flight was originally filed from GYI to OSH. One could surmise that it was going to be on display at the EAA show. So why did it end up in SAW? And, it's an "N" registered aircraft...what is it being used for, and by whom? Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

azav8r wrote:
It's still a very Question situation. The flight was originally filed from GYI to OSH. One could surmise that it was going to be on display at the EAA show. So why did it end up in SAW? And, it's an "N" registered aircraft...what is it being used for, and by whom? Confused


Not sure about the particulars of the "crew issues" and the flight plan etc... but I'm pretty sure it's a DOD contract tanker used for ARF missions during joint training missions. I saw it once on the ramp with a group of Polish Mig-29s.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phantomjet wrote:
but I'm pretty sure it's a DOD contract tanker used for ARF missions during joint training missions.

Well that would certainly explain the retro-fitted drogue pods on the wings and aft fuselage....
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

phantomjet wrote:
Not sure about the particulars of the "crew issues" and the flight plan etc... but I'm pretty sure it's a DOD contract tanker used for ARF missions during joint training missions. I saw it once on the ramp with a group of Polish Mig-29s.
Indeed: http://discussions.flightaware.com/viewtopic.php?p=8477

They were probably going home and decided to drop in at OSH on the way. I don't think the USAF ever actually awarded a contract, there was an err... emotional thread over on PPRuNe involving one of the principals a year or so back.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

azav8r wrote:
It's still a very Question situation. The flight was originally filed from GYI to OSH. One could surmise that it was going to be on display at the EAA show. So why did it end up in SAW? And, it's an "N" registered aircraft...what is it being used for, and by whom? Confused


Overheard the crew ( the 2 that spoke english anyway) say that the plane was enroute to Pakistan.

After the 5 were detained the remaining ones checked out of the hotel, rented a car and left to destination unknown
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it's now filed to Keflavik:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N78GF
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:54 pm    Post subject: leaving?? Reply with quote

Local Media reports this morning that the 5 are supposedly being released this morning and they will be departing to Pakistan via Iceland.

They also report the plane is being converted to a water carrier
( in Pakistan?????)

All immigration issues have been chalked up to "administrative problems"

as Whiskey November noted , they are filed to Keflavik
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question not sure what is up now, but I just drove over to the field and they have the plane boxed in with snowplows.
Question
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is getting good........
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: NO - GO Reply with quote

Exclamation heres the snapshot of the local 6:00PM news.

1. local judge has filed an injunction for a preliminary trial in relation to a injunction filed by a TX court over unpaid fuel/repair bills

2. released ukranian crewmembers ordered out of country and are reported to be leaving by commercial aviation means
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's start a pool on how long the IL-76 (IL-78 ?) will be left there.

I'll start off with 5 years.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat206 wrote:
I'll start off with 5 years.


Shocked

I'm in for wheels-up from KSAW on Aug 11, 2009.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phantomjet wrote:
Pat206 wrote:
I'll start off with 5 years.


Shocked

I'm in for wheels-up from KSAW on Aug 11, 2009.

I say it'll be gone in a week. I daresay some friend of Putin owns that aircraft, albeit through a leasing company, and it won't be long before he'll want it back.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's ex-Ukranian not Russian, although there may well be some err... debate as to how the Ukranians got hold of it in the first place.

No, I think she's just a tramp looking for work anywhere. Preferably without having to pay any bills along the way.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="JHEM"]
phantomjet wrote:
Pat206 wrote:
I'll start off with 5 years.
I daresay some friend of Putin owns that aircraft, albeit through a leasing company, and it won't be long before he'll want it back.


Putin's croonies may be tough, but they're no match for a bunch of determined Yoopers.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WhiskeyNovember wrote:
Putin's croonies may be tough, but they're no match for a bunch of determined Yoopers.

WTH would Yoopers do with it? It doesn't have a track drive or skis!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

putting skis on probably wouldn't be to hard, the track drive would take a little doing but we could get it done

a couple of us were talking, since the local air museum is being forced to look for a new home, they should just move into the il-78, its already bigger than the spot they have now and we can park it over in the air park with the other displays
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phantomjet wrote:
Pat206 wrote:
I'll start off with 5 years.


Shocked

I'm in for wheels-up from KSAW on Aug 11, 2009.


who knows 11 Aug 2009 might be it.

After todays hearing the judge ordered the plane remain barricaded and grounded until 10 Aug 2009

Story here bhttp://www.uppermichiganssource.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=328379
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeagle wrote:
Story here bhttp://www.uppermichiganssource.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=328379

Very interesting. Someone please inform the wordsmith responsible for that article of the differences between than and then, and lean and lien.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JHEM wrote:
jeagle wrote:
Story here bhttp://www.uppermichiganssource.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=328379

Very interesting. Someone please inform the wordsmith responsible for that article of the differences between than and then, and lean and lien.


Yeah, I noticed the grammar too. I figure that is why they are in
TV / Broadcast journalism. They only need to say it, not spell it.
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