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TorstenHoff
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Copyrighted Pictures Reply with quote

Another member (cclambert07) has lifted several of my copyrighted images from another site and posted them on FlightAware -- how can I get them removed?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post links to them here or email links to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed the problem when I tracked N814TB because at the top of the page I saw a thumbnail of a picture I took less than a week ago:

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-83fea853527637b601698af97f187652e3126d79;user=cclambert07;o=11

cclambert07 lifted the image from

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/229805.html

cropped out the copyright notice and possibly the EXIF information (which also contains a copyright notice), and re-posted the image here.

I'll be glad to send cclambert07 a bill for the use of my copyrighted works, but you can start by deleting the image above.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe he was standing next to you and snapped the same shot Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not unless he was standing where my own two feet were and took a picture at the exact same moment using identical equipment and camera settings. And since I was the only person on the observation deck at the time, I can pretty much rule out that possibility.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a nice shot, what would you charge me to use it as my avatar? TIA
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't charge provided people ask and receive permission first or keep the copyright notice intact.

I'm not sure if you were serious, but if you are, feel free to use the image. I'd be glad to send you a larger, straightened version of the image.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TorstenHoff wrote:
I don't charge provided people ask and receive permission first or keep the copyright notice intact.

I'm not sure if you were serious, but if you are, feel free to use the image. I'd be glad to send you a larger, straightened version of the image.


Thank you!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I checked the first five pictures in cclambert07's gallery, and all of them were lifted from Airport-Data and had their copyright notice removed. I've notified the owners of the copyright on those images, but I suspect that little -- if any -- of the content posted by cclambert07 is his to distribute.

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-f455dc578536294c368446b60d6ca23784974264;newest=1;o=121
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/014453.html

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-292e4f0bb678f286cb3574c4534c87ed17cf2783;user=cclambert07;o=0
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/194869.html

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-f24ba971e02dbba40e2293985dc2c53f8e8c0f1a;user=cclambert07;o=1
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/051758.html

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-84a1a453adfff8de1be60b62759ab366a6d79abf;user=cclambert07;o=2
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/051760.html

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-dca9d77693a54c1afd04ada3b232ecf51f51dcb9;user=cclambert07;o=3
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/001420.html
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've removed the ones you linked to.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I received an email about this today and found that this same person is using some of my photos with my copyright taken off.

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-dfbf2d09dd726cf0b5ed4a3a1983fe6efbc9fa79;user=cclambert07;o=60

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-f867f9b7744acf4db489c824d28cef2708428c86;size=full;user=cclambert07;o=8

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-aad16c337913ced970de5806a57fac040ae0b5a6;user=cclambert07;o=138

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-7e9e8d9b5bfa505f696d52ee625b6003b4c223fe;user=cclambert07;o=139
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please provide links to where you posted the images online.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Admin,

A user, cclambert07, on your website has stolen my photos from other websites, namely www.airport-data.com and www.jetphotos.net, and posted them on your website without my permission. I request that my photos be removed from your website since they are copyrighted to me and I did not authorize them to be posted on your website.

The following photos were taken by me unless otherwise noted. I have contacted the other photographers via email to notify them that their photos have been uploaded to your site by cclambert07 without our authorization.
The following photos are mine and do not belong to cclambert07:

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-a5643bda40013ac73cc810c2b7bd21a445c33c35;airport=KLAX;o=18

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-fce78c7e863bc6105e0a8d6ca29409cfb1d97e8e;airport=KLAX;o=19

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-2b554e39e6ad033a626805cd4b532ead4849868c;user=cclambert07;o=4

N426CH:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-4a53a29b9069b2a614769b7fe3b5425d120587cb;user=cclambert07;o=10

N330VP:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-4a72f42357e530c5b0c2d9fa3a62c746ffdfdfc4;user=cclambert07;o=11

N189MK:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-eccf3f0d71c60c96d76b1811d0a976a783d040f8;user=cclambert07;o=28

N41KA:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-ee6d42218d39ef4f6e07fd0625fcaa716a7ee0a3;user=cclambert07;o=30

N995FE:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-0c086d5743bf16f6691b2c8a62bb7e46bab052f0;user=cclambert07;o=39

N851LE:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-8d0478a41f355123c26a80c3eb63439dbbf2261a;user=cclambert07;o=40

N345SV:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-4d39cc6ff9933d271a2b78a402e75b8ba9347f2d;user=cclambert07;o=43

N168MA:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-aba00b6a13d06a67f051dc93373ac1708dc199f9;user=cclambert07;o=46

N412SH (Brad Campbell took this shot):
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-402bf38757f9548bc58140c87c9e2bc02f3a9826;user=cclambert07;o=48

N721BS:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-77e893eca90c8be622563f58008bb5532ab10012;user=cclambert07;o=57

N426CM (Ralph Duenas took this shot):
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-dfbf2d09dd726cf0b5ed4a3a1983fe6efbc9fa79;user=cclambert07;o=60

N486BG (Brad Campbell took this shot):
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-e6e1fa6eb3553ec2c12e274827ff9c78cd5897ac;user=cclambert07;o=103
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mduell wrote:
Please provide links to where you posted the images online.


http://www.airliners.net/photo/Flynt-Aviation/Gulfstream-Aerospace-G-IV/1317117/L/


http://www.airliners.net/photo/Flynt-Aviation/Gulfstream-Aerospace-G-IV/1317935/L/

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Cessna-750-Citation/1096638/L/

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Cessna-750-Citation/0930346/L/
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dheald wrote:
Admin,

A user, cclambert07, on your website has stolen my photos from other websites, namely www.airport-data.com and www.jetphotos.net, and posted them on your website without my permission. I request that my photos be removed from your website since they are copyrighted to me and I did not authorize them to be posted on your website.

The following photos were taken by me unless otherwise noted. I have contacted the other photographers via email to notify them that their photos have been uploaded to your site by cclambert07 without our authorization.
The following photos are mine and do not belong to cclambert07:


Please provide links to where each photo was posted online.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mduell wrote:
dheald wrote:
Admin,

A user, cclambert07, on your website has stolen my photos from other websites, namely www.airport-data.com and www.jetphotos.net, and posted them on your website without my permission. I request that my photos be removed from your website since they are copyrighted to me and I did not authorize them to be posted on your website.

The following photos were taken by me unless otherwise noted. I have contacted the other photographers via email to notify them that their photos have been uploaded to your site by cclambert07 without our authorization.
The following photos are mine and do not belong to cclambert07:


Please provide links to where each photo was posted online.



N269HM:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-a5643bda40013ac73cc810c2b7bd21a445c33c35;airport=KLAX;o=18
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/067050.html
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5932135&nseq=0
N10FE:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-fce78c7e863bc6105e0a8d6ca29409cfb1d97e8e;airport=KLAX;o=19
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/014795.html
N887WS:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-2b554e39e6ad033a626805cd4b532ead4849868c;user=cclambert07;o=4
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/037554.html
N426CH:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-4a53a29b9069b2a614769b7fe3b5425d120587cb;user=cclambert07;o=10
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/129273.html
N330VP:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-4a72f42357e530c5b0c2d9fa3a62c746ffdfdfc4;user=cclambert07;o=11

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/130822.html

N189MK:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-eccf3f0d71c60c96d76b1811d0a976a783d040f8;user=cclambert07;o=28

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/124274.html

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6267401&nseq=0

N41KA:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-ee6d42218d39ef4f6e07fd0625fcaa716a7ee0a3;user=cclambert07;o=30

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/014475.html

N995FE:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-0c086d5743bf16f6691b2c8a62bb7e46bab052f0;user=cclambert07;o=39

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/178753.html

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6241984&nseq=0

N851LE:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-8d0478a41f355123c26a80c3eb63439dbbf2261a;user=cclambert07;o=40

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/059063.html

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5892738&nseq=0

N345SV:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-4d39cc6ff9933d271a2b78a402e75b8ba9347f2d;user=cclambert07;o=43

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/124322.html

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6182534&nseq=0

N168MA:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-aba00b6a13d06a67f051dc93373ac1708dc199f9;user=cclambert07;o=46

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/061621.html

N412SH (Brad Campbell took this shot):
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-402bf38757f9548bc58140c87c9e2bc02f3a9826;user=cclambert07;o=48

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/013241.html

N721BS:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-77e893eca90c8be622563f58008bb5532ab10012;user=cclambert07;o=57

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/179350.html

N426CM (Ralph Duenas took this shot):
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-dfbf2d09dd726cf0b5ed4a3a1983fe6efbc9fa79;user=cclambert07;o=60

N426CM (Ralph Duenas took this shot):
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-480efd1f4046f35b5851f5c31f73b18976eb44a3;user=cclambert07;o=61

N5931M:
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-84ca36d9641be5844288778f3d2ce5504fb7d63b;user=cclambert07;o=74

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/123979.html

N486BG (Thomas Ramgraber-VAP took this shot):
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-e6e1fa6eb3553ec2c12e274827ff9c78cd5897ac;user=cclambert07;o=103

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/156504.html

N388DB (Brad Campbell took this shot):

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-f010180345eb04cb88217edabaf526943bc1eb2e;user=cclambert07;o=103

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/158274.html

N989BC:

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-fa3f5b01f6f5fd98e6f81bab41d91bf7c6d81641;user=cclambert07;o=104

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/168954.html

N555TF (Ralph Duenas-Tomcatlover, took this shot):

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-cb8d62cf0f50f72357792c05b373305f90fb1a28;user=cclambert07;o=109

N151KV:

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-70f2a0a24cd8c5191d56bd427290351079090346;user=cclambert07;o=119

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/061731.html

N808CW:

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-0bf12840cde86d1409c161a05e31a7afe11d80ca;user=cclambert07;o=137

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/126228.html

N10FE (Daniel Compton took this one):

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-dcba6ae830a96106edbc0bd53cae6a668b7cb293;user=cclambert07;o=154

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/068433.html

N27TB (Jason Whitebird took this one):

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-49fd4bad36e89ae3a5b7a75195776522996411ba;user=cclambert07;o=156

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1164575

N480QS (EDDL Photography took this one):

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-c8bc8e3945fd97106d753f81ea5aa82982bdd1cd;user=cclambert07;o=170

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-(NetJets)/Gulfstream-Aerospace-G-IV/1187820&tbl=photo_info&photo_nr=2&sok=WHERE__%28reg_%3D_%27N480QS%27%29_&sort=_order_by_photo_id_DESC_&prev_id=1386492&next_id=0778703

N65JT (EDDL Photography took this one):

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-7c08db23bd1c415ba4fb3fa8c928853fb2033c8d;user=cclambert07;o=172

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled/Lockheed-1329-25-JetStar/1188008&tbl=photo_info&photo_nr=1&sok=WHERE__%28reg_%3D_%27N65JT%27%29_&sort=_order_by_photo_id_DESC_&prev_id=&next_id=0748664

N717NB (Simon Gregory-Jetwash Photos took this one):

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-1213847601-19711e8d136561659012a08fea280260b1a591b5;user=cclambert07;o=226

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled/Cessna-560XL-Citation/1343026&tbl=photo_info&photo_nr=1&sok=WHERE__%28reg_%3D_%27N717NB%27%29_&sort=_order_by_photo_id_DESC_&prev_id=&next_id=NEXTID

N525KR (Fariborz took this one):

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-1213845820-824003db448ccdac4369bdbf20fd34d4d9f96308;user=cclambert07;o=229

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/144826.html

N788SF:

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-1213845045-d784747d4f677d10c10b67d9d99c132cf21cd9ec;user=cclambert07;o=231

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/028898.html

N535AF (Ralph Duenas-Tomcatlover took this one):

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-1213770976-6062d6b46842172d1e97d2e0d7f45c100d7fb2bc;user=cclambert07;o=241

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photo/Ameriflight/Ameriflight/0903959&tbl=CARGO&photo_nr=8&sok=WHERE__%28aircraft_generic_%3D_%27Gates_Learjet_35ESCSLASH36_%28C-21%29%27%29_&sort=_order_by_photo_id_DESC_&prev_id=0923489&next_id=0857477
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I removed all the photos that you provided original links for.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, here is another by a different person:

N329CS:

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/16553-dfbc7717c5e63e8a5b727cbbd5883a8ec8c67971;user=ominbnd;o=9

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/156556.html
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have enjoyed posting my images here, but lately I have noticed more individuals are not following the rules. Note mrhelio for one. His recent image post of the F-22 formation can be found on numerous websites including wikipedia. The Flight Aware agreement clearly states, "Do not submit content you do not own (e.g. work belonging to someone else or that you found on the internet)." This image is a U.S. Air Force photo by TSgt Ben Bloker. I hope we can continue to see original images taken from all sorts of photographers. Let's lose the google images.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This photo of mine posted by cclambert07 is still on this website:

N788SF:

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-1213845045-d784747d4f677d10c10b67d9d99c132cf21cd9ec;user=cclambert07;o=231

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/028898.html

Please remove it at your earliest convenience.

Thank you,

Dean
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steel61 wrote:
I have enjoyed posting my images here, but lately I have noticed more individuals are not following the rules. Note mrhelio for one. His recent image post of the F-22 formation can be found on numerous websites including wikipedia. The Flight Aware agreement clearly states, "Do not submit content you do not own (e.g. work belonging to someone else or that you found on the internet)." This image is a U.S. Air Force photo by TSgt Ben Bloker. I hope we can continue to see original images taken from all sorts of photographers. Let's lose the google images.

Is the picture copyrighted by the Air Force or, as most government photos are, is it in the public domain as it should be. After all, the pictures are paid for by the taxpayers.

That said, credit to the photographer should still be given.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steel61 wrote:
I have enjoyed posting my images here, but lately I have noticed more individuals are not following the rules. Note mrhelio for one. His recent image post of the F-22 formation can be found on numerous websites including wikipedia. The Flight Aware agreement clearly states, "Do not submit content you do not own (e.g. work belonging to someone else or that you found on the internet)." This image is a U.S. Air Force photo by TSgt Ben Bloker. I hope we can continue to see original images taken from all sorts of photographers. Let's lose the google images.

Are you referring to a photo posted in the body of message or one uploaded to the FA photo archive.

If the former, there's no such proscription as you describe against using images that are in the public domain, such as government photos or those from Wikimedia.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the picture is public domain, BUT, the Flight Aware agreement states do not post images found on the internet.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steel61 wrote:
Yes, the picture is public domain, BUT, the Flight Aware agreement states do not post images found on the internet.

Again, that applies to the FA photo archives, not to the Forums.

You got a dog in this fight or are you just venting?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JHEM wrote:
Steel61 wrote:
I have enjoyed posting my images here, but lately I have noticed more individuals are not following the rules. Note mrhelio for one. His recent image post of the F-22 formation can be found on numerous websites including wikipedia. The Flight Aware agreement clearly states, "Do not submit content you do not own (e.g. work belonging to someone else or that you found on the internet)." This image is a U.S. Air Force photo by TSgt Ben Bloker. I hope we can continue to see original images taken from all sorts of photographers. Let's lose the google images.

Are you referring to a photo posted in the body of message or one uploaded to the FA photo archive.

If the former, there's no such proscription as you describe against using images that are in the public domain, such as government photos or those from Wikimedia.


That photo was sent to me long before it was all over the net, and I have exclusive permission to use it at will.......
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