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TUSpilot
Joined: 06 Sep 2006 Posts: 20
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:14 am Post subject: Flight Track Issues? |
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| Recently I have noticed that flights will lose their flight track midway through the flight. The line just stops. Why is this? It appears to have started on about the 29th of January because I see one active and one non-active link for many flights. It wouldn't be a problem if it was only a minority of flights that did this, but it looks like more than half and is very annoying. |
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kschweik
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Well, lines stop if the pilot cancels IFR, though I dont know if that was your issue.
What I've noticed over the last week or so is that the times simply are incorrect (e.g. it will say the flight has landed 3 hours ago in CA, but the image will show the plane in the correct place over NV).
Please check out UPS958, it "landed" yesterday 2 hours after its arrival. I've had to go to other flight tracking sites to determine ETAs for about a week now...
Thanks,
-K |
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lieberma Charter Member

Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 3971 Location: KMBO - Sundowner N1943L
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N0AAA Charter Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 88 Location: Mt. Vernon, IA
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:43 pm Post subject: Also missing icons |
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| Besides flight tracks terminating before they are really done, I've noticed missing airplane icons at the ends of the tracks in the last couple of weeks. The line just ends. -Jan / CID region |
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N0AAA Charter Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 88 Location: Mt. Vernon, IA
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:06 pm Post subject: Truncated tracks |
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| Still lot of premature endings to tracks (then missing the airplane icon, also, usually) long before they are supposed to end. Only ran across one that was totally blank (CCP412/413 demonstrates both phenomena). FYI - Jan Iowa (about 12" of snow, mostly this morning, I'm not about to go anywhere just yet) |
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mduell FlightAware Staff

Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 2964 Location: FAWHQ

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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| We've noticed the increase in errant early arrival messages over the last week or so, particularly for flights entirely within CONUS. |
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QuickBurn FlightAware Member

Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 806 Location: KSEE
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, all that...and something I noticed the other day...An Eagle flight from LAX had to go around due to rwy 27 minimums at SAN...but FA showed it had arrived right at that time. Yet, it was still tracking. The blue icon turned to green as it went over the water to shoot the ILS 9, and arrived that way...10 minutes after FA said it did. |
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newt2264
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 9
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| When is Flight Aware supose to fix this problem the tracker quits half way thru the flight? |
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newt2264
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:40 am Post subject: |
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I got This email reponse back tonight:
This is caused by bad data from the FAA data feed. We are well aware of the
problem and are actively working on a fix for this problem. I am sorry that
this is creating difficulties in tracking aircraft.
Best regards,
Collin White
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wazzu90 FlightAware Member

Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 3783 Location: YKM - Yakima, WA
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:31 am Post subject: |
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FlightAware is still a great value.  |
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SWEATINTHSWAMP
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 14
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| QuickBurn wrote: | | Yeah, all that...and something I noticed the other day...An Eagle flight from LAX had to go around due to rwy 27 minimums at SAN...but FA showed it had arrived right at that time. Yet, it was still tracking. The blue icon turned to green as it went over the water to shoot the ILS 9, and arrived that way...10 minutes after FA said it did. | Where do you see blue icon's and green icons? On FlightAware? |
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mduell FlightAware Staff

Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 2964 Location: FAWHQ

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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Airport maps have blue and green aircraft icons to distinguish between aircraft going to/from an airport and aircraft just passing by. |
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SWEATINTHSWAMP
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 14
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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AV8NLVR Charter Member
Joined: 27 Oct 2005 Posts: 66 Location: Green Bay, Wisconsin, USA
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mduell FlightAware Staff

Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 2964 Location: FAWHQ

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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:50 am Post subject: |
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| Even after the cancellation message we continue to receive position messages. Once we decide on a fix the old flights will be complete. |
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newt2264
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 9
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:47 am Post subject: |
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| How long will that be? |
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tlpresley
Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:31 am Post subject: Loosing track |
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| The tracking information is being lost on Delta flight 650 from SFO to ATL as I type. Very odd. It actually shows the flight twice, once already having arrived and another with totally wrong times. The Delta web site seems to have correct info. |
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N0AAA Charter Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 88 Location: Mt. Vernon, IA
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: Post cancellation track info fix |
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| MDuell - Will that also help the terminated tracks of flights coming in from outside of the country? (from europe and hawaii, etc.) - Thnx Jan |
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PltDave
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| All of the TRS flts MSP - MCO in the recent history have only taken 30 minutes or so. Go figure. |
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newt2264
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 9
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:23 am Post subject: When will Flight Tracking Get Fixed |
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| How long will this problem continue with the early arrival messages with flights that are still in the air, Mduell? |
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kschweik
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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BTW, the other flight tracking sites seem to still be able to give me an ETA on the arrival of the flight. Your arrival text msg is coming on time, but the website shows the plane in the air, but never departing or arriving.
-K |
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N0AAA Charter Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 88 Location: Mt. Vernon, IA
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:37 am Post subject: Early terminations |
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| UAL632 is going over on the big screen, but the little screen says it terminated half an hour ago and arrival message is generated. Flytecomm shows it in about the right place (but their small screen looks like your big screen!). Any progress on this? 73 Jan / CID (in ice and snowbound Iowa... am I the only one here old enough to remember Lower Slobovia?) |
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N0AAA Charter Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 88 Location: Mt. Vernon, IA
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: Early terminations |
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| UAL632 is going over on the big screen, but the little screen says it terminated half an hour ago and arrival message is generated. Flytecomm shows it in about the right place (but their small screen looks like your big screen!). Any progress on this? 73 Jan / CID (in ice and snowbound Iowa... am I the only one here old enough to remember Lower Slobovia?) |
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pthomas745 FlightAware Member
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 268
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:00 am Post subject: Comical Strip Humor |
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| We'll have to call in Fearless Fosdick to figure this mystery out. |
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N0AAA Charter Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 88 Location: Mt. Vernon, IA
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject: Yep, you're one |
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| CID is at minimums. Freighters holding, show up on the small map but not on the big one (something very large went over very low and slow in the murk while I was letting the dog out. Being a true nerd, I ran in and fired up the computer. I think it was a UPS 763 trying to get into runway 27 (I fired up the scanner as well... being a true nerd I like science fiction and ham radio as well as airplanes. My wife despairs...), anyway, blue plane on the little airport map, nothing on the blowup. I'm guessing UPS916. Got my interest because we only see flavors of RJ anymore (bleacchhhh) most of the time. Noodling around I still see many truncated route lines. Hope you find it (and put the from/to lines back in!). Thanks, Jan nr CID (foot and a half of snow out back) |
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