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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:31 pm 
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Just a thought but she wouldn't even be able to fly a caravan since that is a turboprop? Thought you couldnt fly those if you only had your PPL? Maybe i am wrong.


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One would assume that she does have her turbine and HP endorcements, as well as IFR, or is planning on it.


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There is no turbine endorsement. A private pilot with complex and high performance endorsements can fly a caravan.


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My bad. I thought there was a turbine, which in a way, meant you can fly a jet. I may have been spacing out on that one.


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cfijames wrote:
There is no turbine endorsement. A private pilot with complex and high performance endorsements can fly a caravan.


Since when are (land based) Caravans complex?


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mduell wrote:
Since when are (land based) Caravans complex?

"FAA Order 8710.3E defines a complex airplane for the airplane single-engine land or airplane multiengine land rating as one that has a retractable landing gear, flaps, and controllable propeller. A complex airplane for the airplane single-engine sea or airplane multiengine sea rating is one having flaps, floats, and a controllable propeller. A controllable propeller may be controlled manually by the pilot or automatically controlled by a full authority digital engine control (FADEC) system."

I don't see how the non-float Caravan meets the definition for complex. It is however high performance.


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mduell wrote:
cfijames wrote:
There is no turbine endorsement. A private pilot with complex and high performance endorsements can fly a caravan.


Since when are (land based) Caravans complex?


Since I misspoke. A private pilot with a High performance endorsement is legal to fly a caravan.


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The insurance companies have a different opinion about flying a turbine single solo.


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nwa1819 wrote:
Just a thought but she wouldn't even be able to fly a caravan since that is a turboprop? Thought you couldnt fly those if you only had your PPL? Maybe i am wrong.


You probably can't, but you certainly may :wink:

Many apologees.


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"A fool and his (her) money are soon flying more airplane than they can handle."


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"A fool and his (her) money are soon flying more airplane than they can handle."


Ms. Jolie didn't seem the type for that. She seems to always have an instructor pilot with her.


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 Post subject: Jolie
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Maybe she bought a TBM 850... Those are up there in price... Fits that price range anyway.


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tweetdrivr wrote:
"A fool and his (her) money are soon flying more airplane than they can handle."


Just ask John F. Kennedy, Jr.

There are two truisms of celebrity deaths the last decade -

1. If Princess Diana was wearing a seat belt she would be alive today; and,

2. If JFK, Jr, had pressed the HDG button on the autopilot when he realized he was in trouble, he'd probably be alive to . . .


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Are you kidding me?....this thread being resurrected after being started over a year ago? :roll:
By now she's probably flying her own Gulfstream :wink:


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 Post subject: Angelina Jolie's Gulfstream
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:58 am 
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Funny you should say that, N311CG Gulfstream V-SP c/n 5108 registered on title is AVN AIR (aka GE Credit) reported to be owned by Angelina Jolie. Pictured here in Bejing.
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 Post subject: Re: Angelina Jolie's Gulfstream
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robbreid wrote:
Funny you should say that, N311CG Gulfstream V-SP c/n 5108 registered on title is AVN AIR (aka GE Credit) reported to be owned by Angelina Jolie. Pictured here in Bejing.


I've always thought it made little sense to take your own aircraft on long overseas trips like that. You need to bring 2 full crews because of the duty cycles, your crew (usually) don't have much if any familiarity with the local airspace, approaches, etc. For less money, you can buy the entire first class cabin of a commercial flight and charter a plane at your destination (in most places) and be at least as comfortable and probably safer as well.


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 Post subject: Angelina's Cessna Caravan
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:44 am 
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Flightaware N48JA
Flightaware N808MX
Ms. Jolie's personal aircraft are a Cirrus SR-22GTS N808MX which replaced an earlier Cirrus SR-22G2 N805MX which was used to earn her PPL.
Added to the fleet last year was Cessna Caravan N48JA.
Currently N808MX was approved to be reregistered N805MX.
Both aircraft are owned by Ms. Jolie's production company Chivan Productions.
Photos; N805MX with Brad Pitt at Santa Monica, N805MX with owner, N48JA.
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 Post subject: Re: Angelina Jolie's Gulfstream
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:52 pm 
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CAFlier wrote:
You need to bring 2 full crews because of the duty cycles, your crew (usually) don't have much if any familiarity with the local airspace, approaches, etc.

Most operators of this this type af aircraft fly with three flight crew members on long international trips, and will rotate rest breaks during the flight. Between flight planning/handling services and flight crews that have international operations experience, I'm sure that AJ's flight crews have no problem being "familiar" with the locales that AJ frequents.


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 Post subject: Yes, An-2 is the largest
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:22 pm 
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WhiskeyNovember wrote:
Regarding the earlier discussion re: "the largest single-engine propeller plane you can get", I believe the Antonov AN-2 would be more deserving of that title than either the PC-12 or the Caravan...


I was just about to reply with a note on the An-2! Yes, the An-2 is one amazing aicrat. I grew up in Bulgaria near an airport where every morning I woke up to its unique sounding engine. It kept taking up skydivers over and over again for years. Now, about 20 years later I was visiting Bulgaria and was happy to see An-2's still flying. here's a real good one I shot:

http://www.pbase.com/icholakov/image/83560113

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The link above has a full size photo. I also saw one at the aviation museum in Plovdiv, Bulgaria in not so great shape ut I can't find that photo.


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 Post subject: Re: Angelina Jolie's Gulfstream
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azav8r wrote:
CAFlier wrote:
You need to bring 2 full crews because of the duty cycles, your crew (usually) don't have much if any familiarity with the local airspace, approaches, etc.

Most operators of this this type af aircraft fly with three flight crew members on long international trips, and will rotate rest breaks during the flight. Between flight planning/handling services and flight crews that have international operations experience, I'm sure that AJ's flight crews have no problem being "familiar" with the locales that AJ frequents.


We do these trips to Europe with 2 crews, but get a local pilot in Europe in certain situations to give us the local knowledge.


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 Post subject: Re: Yes, An-2 is the largest
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:30 pm 
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Hwyman wrote:

I was just about to reply with a note on the An-2! Yes, the An-2 is one amazing aicrat. I grew up in Bulgaria near an airport where every morning I woke up to its unique sounding engine. It kept taking up skydivers over and over again for years. Now, about 20 years later I was visiting Bulgaria and was happy to see An-2's still flying. here's a real good one I shot:

http://www.pbase.com/icholakov/image/83560113

The link above has a full size photo. I also saw one at the aviation museum in Plovdiv, Bulgaria in not so great shape ut I can't find that photo.


That's cool! Thanks for sharing.


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 Post subject: Re: Angelina Jolie's Gulfstream
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:06 pm 
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CAFlier wrote:
We do these trips to Europe with 2 crews, but get a local pilot in Europe in certain situations to give us the local knowledge.

To each their own I suppose :wink: .......BTW...who's "We"...out of curiosity...PM me if it's not for open disclosure......


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JHEM wrote:
Men are also more likely to RTFM than a woman.


Whaaaaat!?!? Did you actually say that men are more likely to read the manual?????


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As far as I can tell, the biggest single engine prop is the A-1 Skyraider. Awaiting harsh criticism for reviving a SERIOUSLY dead thread :oops: Sorry, I couldn't help myself.


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