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planeaholic FlightAware Member

Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 1151 Location: KCLE, KCAK, 1G5
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject: Aircraft Crashes into High-Rise in NYC |
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CNN is just breaking this news. No real info. yet, but they're saying it was a SMALL plane, not an airliner. Of course, on 9/11 there were conflicting reports as to what hit World Trade #1 as well until United 195 hit tower #2. That being said, it looks pretty foggy in New York, so it wouldn't be all that surprising if it were an accident, although I highly doubt that anyone is allowed to fly VFR today, no? Feel free to add info. as this unfolds if you wish. There's not even a news link available yet.
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pika1000 Charter Member

Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 2107 Location: KTUL/KRVS via BFL/MIT
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Beat me by 1 minute....now reporting it was a chopper....
Near E. 72nd & York, 22nd floor....
NYC officials saying NOT terrorism
foxnews.com has a pic on the website, as does cnn.com...
Deleted other posting on this.
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planeaholic FlightAware Member

Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 1151 Location: KCLE, KCAK, 1G5
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| pika1000 wrote: | Beat me by 1 minute....now reporting it was a chopper....saying weather is clear...
Deleted other posting on this. |
THAT'S why it wouldn't let me respond (y'know, to rub it in ). I'm looking at the TV, and it is anything but clear weather. You're probably right about it being a chopper though. I doubt any fixed-wing a/c would be flying low over Manhattan on a yucky day like this. Changed subject line to generic "Aircraft" instead of "Small Plane." |
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magnetoz Charter Member

Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 481 Location: I69
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Live coverage from local NBC affiliate.
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pika1000 Charter Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Think that site is about to be "farked"....running real slow |
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magnetoz Charter Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Yup, i can't see much now, but the audio is still clear. |
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pika1000 Charter Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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FDNY confirm 2 deaths, some trapped, officially a 3 alarm fire.
Well, hell....now the FAA says it was a fixed wing aircraft under VFR, not in contact with ATC.
"Witness" just said that she saw the plane's wing dip and disappear behind the building, then heard a "boom"
My take is that the plane stalled.... |
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esjones Charter Member

Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 19 Location: Springboro, Ohio
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:32 pm Post subject: No Network Coverage |
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| Cable news is going nuts over this, but as of 3:22PM the broadcast networks were still in local programming.... |
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dbaker FlightAware Staff

Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1557 Location: KHOU

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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KLGA 111443Z 111512 08012KT P6SM OVC015
FM1800 10012KT P6SM SCT015 OVC025
FM2200 10010KT P6SM OVC015
TEMPO 2202 5SM -RA BR
FM0200 12010KT 2SM -SHRA BR OVC007
FM0900 20007KT 4SM -SHRA BR OVC012 |
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gev1138

Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 1 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject: Crikey, Batman! |
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| CNN reporting NORAD putting fighter jets up over several major cities. |
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Boeing7475500 FlightAware Member

Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 624 Location: KDAY
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| See how much panic terroism has caused. |
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RyanBerryhill
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 3 Location: KSUA
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject: vfr |
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There is a vfr corridor that runs up and down the hudson and one that runs up and down the east river. usually people from NJ or upstate run down the hudson to see statue of liberty and then back up.
my roomate here at flight school usta do it all the time. |
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CDWOPS FlightAware Member

Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 265 Location: KCDW (Caldwell,NJ)
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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reports now say it seemed to be a Cirrus SR-20, dont really see the need to scramble fighter jets
...and if it was a mechanical faliure, why didnt the pilot use the aircrafts ballistic recovery system (the parachute). I would assume thats a better idea then letting the plane get away from you, and crash into a building. Thats why I think the pilot more then likely must have had some sort of cabin emergency, heart attack or stroke is possible in this situation. Especially if the pilot was flying solo or with inexperienced passenger on the right side. Then there was reports that the pilot might have been doing aerobatics, I highly doubt it but I have personally seen alot of these "hot-shot/young/very rich" cirrus pilots right here at my own local field (which btw is the largest GA airport in the NYC area), and I tell you what... this was going to happen one day. Im still listening to the news and waiting for the NTSB to realese a report.
EDIT:: First word says the plane was from KTEB
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joeharam
Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 2
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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CDWOPS FlightAware Member

Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 265 Location: KCDW (Caldwell,NJ)
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Plane is registered to Cory Lidle .... New York Yankee Pitcher, btw today is 10/11
heres the offical registration
-NUMBER 929CD
Aircraft Serial Number 1230
Aircraft Manufacturer CIRRUS DESIGN CORP
Aircraft Type Fixed wing single engine
Aircraft Model SR20
Engine Manufacturer LYCOMING
Engine Type Reciprocating
Engine Model I0-360-ES
Year Manufactured 2002
Registrant Corporation
Name INFINITY DATA CORP
Address 525 CAMPANELLI INDUSTRIAL DR
BROCKTON , MA-02301-1808
US
Registration Date 02 January 2003
Airworthiness Certificate Type Standard
Approved Operations Normal
Status V
Aircraft Transponder Code 53157717 |
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pika1000 Charter Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| CDWOPS wrote: | reports now say it seemed to be a Cirrus SR-20, dont really see the need to scramble fighter jets
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Scrambled as a preacaution, and because last time some guy decided to go after his ex-wife and wad his plane up into an apartment building and NORAD didn't scramble fighters, people had a hissy fit. |
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pika1000 Charter Member

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planeaholic FlightAware Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Bizarre, to say the least. Similar to the demise of Thurman Munson, another Yankee, although he was a catcher. |
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pika1000 Charter Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Can I be the "conspiracy theorist" and say it was suicide since he did pitch the last game for the Yankees this year vs. the Tigers???? |
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RDU200Driver

Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 25
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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stevewinnj
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| pika1000 wrote: | | Can I be the "conspiracy theorist" and say it was suicide since he did pitch the last game for the Yankees this year vs. the Tigers???? |
Except that he had his flight instructor with him....  |
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dwilson80126
Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject: unqualified reporters |
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| Should be unwritten rule.....reporters who aren't pilots should not "speculate" about cause of a crash.....one just did so, stating that "there have been mechanical problems" with the Cirrus. Not that it could have been 1) rich athlete that buys a high powered aircraft, 2) may have just become licensed (or not quite licensed), flys it in MVFR conditions, in 4) very tricky airspace. DUH |
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88nitro305 FlightAware Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Its sad (coming from a Sox fan) the off season will be different for the Yanks. The first thing that came to my mind was suicide but i don't think it was that at all. >RIP Cory Lidle 1973-2006< |
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dbaker FlightAware Staff

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: unqualified reporters |
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| dwilson80126 wrote: | | Should be unwritten rule.....reporters who aren't pilots should not "speculate" about cause of a crash.....one just did so, stating that "there have been mechanical problems" with the Cirrus. Not that it could have been 1) rich athlete that buys a high powered aircraft, 2) may have just become licensed (or not quite licensed), flys it in MVFR conditions, in 4) very tricky airspace. DUH |
SR20 is just 200hp. |
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damiross New FlightAware Member

Joined: 27 Oct 2005 Posts: -3779 Location: Castro Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:29 am Post subject: Re: unqualified reporters |
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| dwilson80126 wrote: | | Should be unwritten rule.....reporters who aren't pilots should not "speculate" about cause of a crash.....one just did so, stating that "there have been mechanical problems" with the Cirrus. Not that it could have been 1) rich athlete that buys a high powered aircraft, 2) may have just become licensed (or not quite licensed), flys it in MVFR conditions, in 4) very tricky airspace. DUH |
Should be written in big letters so the reporters can see it! |
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