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phantomjet
 Post subject: Re: NTSB Reports
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:12 pm 
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thewholetruth4u2 wrote:
phantomjet wrote:
Just out of curiosity, where did you find the windshear scenario? I'm not trying to be adversarial, but I'd like to know your sources.

According to the NTSB during the investigation all they could babble about was improper systems training (which was true):

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=NYC07LA081&rpt=fi


It was in the report where the pilots stated they had encountered windshear during the approach...the pilots never mentioned the significant amount of ice they had accumulated as a possible cause, in fact, they mentioned it was a trace amount, despite what line personnel attested too.


Well, that's actually why I asked. I was based at BVY when that happened and had a flight the day after the incident. There was LOTs of scuttlebut going around the airport as to what had happened. :roll:

Which report are you referring to that states the windshear?

Edit- just saw you added links to your post. Thanks!
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thewholetruth4u2
 Post subject: Informative Link
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:51 pm 
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The below link (posted earlier), provides a wealth of information and links to news articles, NTSB Reports, and Foreign Government Accident Reports. Anyone that states this company had no issues can't dispute the facts...and there are many...all of which point to a company with serious issues that were not isolated to one single base of operations.

It almost makes one wonder if the FAA 'tanked' their case? It is hard to believe the Tampa FSDO was providing adequate oversight of Air Trek, based on their abysmal safety record.

http://airtrek1.googlepages.com/airtrek ... dincidents
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thewholetruth4u2
 Post subject: Aircraft on Air Trek Certificate
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:42 pm 
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gr8pilot1 wrote:
Just food for thought. Some of those aircraft may not have all been Air Trek's. It is common place for a private owner to have his aircraft put on a 135 certificate for a fee to make better use of his investment. While Air Trek technically has operational control of the plane "piggybacked" on the certificate it is entirely possible they rarely saw the crew and aircraft.


Nope,

All aircraft on ATs certificate are owned and operated by the company (they are not a management company).

Training and maintenance is conducted at the company directly by the owners or under their direct supervision.
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atprn
 Post subject: Re: Aircraft on Air Trek Certificate
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:49 am 
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thewholetruth4u2 wrote:
gr8pilot1 wrote:
Just food for thought. Some of those aircraft may not have all been Air Trek's. It is common place for a private owner to have his aircraft put on a 135 certificate for a fee to make better use of his investment. While Air Trek technically has operational control of the plane "piggybacked" on the certificate it is entirely possible they rarely saw the crew and aircraft.


Nope,

All aircraft on ATs certificate are owned and operated by the company (they are not a management company).

Training and maintenance is conducted at the company directly by the owners or under their direct supervision.


The whole truth = x AT pilot?
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thetruth1323
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The north base was a great place. Yes it had it's problems but it was on the up and up. Airtrek as a whole was not a bad company but it could have been better.
I hope they can get there stuff together and get back up and running.
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beechit
 Post subject: Florida Charters
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:32 pm 
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After 5 years of Florida charter positions, I now have answers to those questions in interviews:

Q: What is your greatest accomplishment in aviation to date?

A: Surviving 5 years in south Florida 135 ops with no accidents/incidents or violations.

Where there is smoke there is fire or one about to start.
The longer you spend in the system the better your skill become at answering questions.

Atleast they had/have a certificate which is more than I can say for all the 134.5 operators. No doubt prior experience has helped them respond to allagation.
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flyboy97222
 Post subject: Re: Florida Charters
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:14 pm 
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beechit wrote:
After 5 years of Florida charter positions, I now have answers to those questions in interviews:

Q: What is your greatest accomplishment in aviation to date?

A: Surviving 5 years in south Florida 135 ops with no accidents/incidents or violations.

Where there is smoke there is fire or one about to start.
The longer you spend in the system the better your skill become at answering questions.

Atleast they had/have a certificate which is more than I can say for all the 134.5 operators. No doubt prior experience has helped them respond to allagation.


I talked to the guy that shut them down. Sounded like the head had no clue the tale was waggin'
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Rhunternbc
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FAA Ordered to Pay More Than $120,000 for Attorney Fees and Expenses Following Return of Air Carrier Certificate
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damiross
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FAA Ordered to Pay More Than $120,000 for Attorney Fees and Expenses Following Return of Air Carrier Certificate

??? What is this all about ???

Gimme a source
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dadalope
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Google was my friend:
FAA Ordered To Pay More Than $120,000 For Attorney Fees, Expenses
Not an exact match for the headline given by the previous poster, but a good match for the subject.
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Rhunternbc
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http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?Cont ... c3009b15a7
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rondavis12
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Any updates...
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