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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:43 pm 
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Alaska / Horizon canceled most of their flights this week because they ran out of de-icer at PDX and SEA. Their last flight in here was Saturday at 1pm. It's Tuesday at 3pm now. Thousands of their customers have been stranded in the airports in Seattle and Portland for days with no hotels available. De-icing at SEA & PDX is not unusual. They installed HUD in all their planes years ago and have one of the most advanced and youngest fleets in the US.


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Whats up with their promised internet service (row44)?


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Hot off the wire:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TRAVEL/12/24/ho ... index.html


Ground: "Good afternoon sir we are getting ready to spray, 60/40 refractometer completed, time now 1459, please close packs and configure for spray"

Cockpit: "Copy 60/40 copy time and aircraft is ready for spray"

Ground: "We'll get back on the headset when we are complete"

Sounds like someone didn't follow procedure.


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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008556560_webicer24m.html
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Seven Alaska Airlines employees were taken to hospitals today after fumes from de-icing fluid leaked inside an plane shortly before it was scheduled to take off from Seattle-Tacoma International Airport.

About 20 passengers were checked at the airport for eye and throat irritation after the plane was evacuated.

Alaska Airlines Flight 528, bound for Burbank, Calif., from Gate N7, was being de-iced around 8:15 a.m. when passengers reported symptoms from fumes that "made their way onto the aircraft," said Terri-Anne Betancourt, airport spokeswoman.

Betancourt said airport personnel were investigating the incident.

All 143 passengers got off the plane, and those who were affected were offered treatment from medics, she said. A new Alaska Airlines plane was brought in for the flight and was expected to leave about 10:30 a.m.


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wazzu90 wrote:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008556560_webicer24m.html
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Seven Alaska Airlines employees were taken to hospitals today after fumes from de-icing fluid leaked inside an plane shortly before it was scheduled to take off from Seattle-Tacoma International Airport.

About 20 passengers were checked at the airport for eye and throat irritation after the plane was evacuated.

Alaska Airlines Flight 528, bound for Burbank, Calif., from Gate N7, was being de-iced around 8:15 a.m. when passengers reported symptoms from fumes that "made their way onto the aircraft," said Terri-Anne Betancourt, airport spokeswoman.

Betancourt said airport personnel were investigating the incident.

All 143 passengers got off the plane, and those who were affected were offered treatment from medics, she said. A new Alaska Airlines plane was brought in for the flight and was expected to leave about 10:30 a.m.


Fumes.. :?: I wonder if it was more diesel fumes from the truck, There's a slight smell of glycol, but fumes, and enough to make you sick? I dunno, maybe I was huffing it the last 15 years and just didn't realize it, and I'm sure when confined it's a little more pronounced. The truck on the other hand, if it was diesel fumes, at least if it's anything like the trucks I've used, I'm surprised no one passed out.

I've had it get in my eyes a bit (cause everyone knows the goggles are worthless) , and I know I've ingested some of it, mmm, mmm

to quote the Jerky Boys, asbestos removal prank,
"I've been working with the s$#t so long I can eat the f@#$#$% s#$t


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What does alaskan use? Ethylene or Propylene? PG is quite a bit safer to ingest. Both used to be used as sweetners in foods. Maybe diesel fumes but there has to be more to the story. I'm guessing that its not the de-icer but the aircraft wasn't properly configured and some spray got into the apu and burnt it out. That is a nasty acrid smell and will spread throughout the cabin.


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I'm guessing that its not the de-icer but the aircraft wasn't properly configured and some spray got into the apu and burnt it out. That is a nasty acrid smell and will spread throughout the cabin.

Image Or the A/C pacs were improperly configured and ingested a bunch of it which cooked on the hotplates.


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It's funny Alaska is having such problems with de-icer. First they got caught with their pants down by not having any then they send a bunch of people to the hospital by not knowing how to use it. I mean, the airline's name is ALASKA! If one word conjures up thoughts of cold weather flying, it is ALASKA. This isn't their first rodeo.


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Silentnite wrote:
What does alaskan use? Ethylene or Propylene? PG is quite a bit safer to ingest. Both used to be used as sweetners in foods. Maybe diesel fumes but there has to be more to the story. I'm guessing that its not the de-icer but the aircraft wasn't properly configured and some spray got into the apu and burnt it out. That is a nasty acrid smell and will spread throughout the cabin.


Ethylene is a no go per EPA. Propylene is king in the US. Ethylene is even rare in the rest of the world.


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16-Year-Old Sitka High School Student Wins 'Paint the Plane' Contest

The winning design is at http://www.painttheplane.com/

This is the commemorate the 50th anniversary of Alaska statehood.


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wazzu90 wrote:
Alaska / Horizon canceled most of their flights this week because they ran out of de-icer at PDX and SEA. Their last flight in here was Saturday at 1pm. It's Tuesday at 3pm now. Thousands of their customers have been stranded in the airports in Seattle and Portland for days with no hotels available. De-icing at SEA & PDX is not unusual. They installed HUD in all their planes years ago and have one of the most advanced and youngest fleets in the US.


My dad got caught in LAX on the December 17th cause Alaska had no De-ice equipment AT ALL!


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Should have known this was coming
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An Alaska Airlines passenger is suing the airline over injuries she says she suffered when de-icer fumes entered an aircraft at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport on Christmas Eve.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008620369_webalaskasuit12m.html


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Should have known this was coming
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An Alaska Airlines passenger is suing the airline over injuries she says she suffered when de-icer fumes entered an aircraft at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport on Christmas Eve.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008620369_webalaskasuit12m.html



This to me is BS...BUT in cases like this it is to be expected. I don't believe she is still having problems this far out from that:

http://www.sefsc.noaa.gov/HTMLdocs/PropyleneGlycol.htm

I have de-iced a lot of aircraft over the years, ingested and inhaled a lot of glycol, yes you get a stomach ache for the rest of the day if you get to much, but by the next day it is better. "Numbness, and fatigue" that is a crock. IF she was truely sick then why did "All 143 pax board another aircraft and continue to Burbank"? She must not have been SO sick she couldn't go to BUR. Result of this, AS pays this woman out of court to go away.


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http://heraldnet.com/article/20090513/NEWS01/705139860&news01ad=1#Paine.Field.flights.likely.to.begin.in.a.year

Horizon to start service at Paine Field next year.


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In case I've never said this on here (this thread) I do enjoy flying on AS!! They have kick ass service as far as I am concerened. I hope some day they decide to start up here at TPA...I still have a trip to Alaska I would love to take before I go in the ground. :wink:


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IADFXMD11HVY wrote:
I hope some day they decide to start up here at TPA...I still have a trip to Alaska I would love to take before I go in the ground. :wink:


It could happen. They just announced Atlanta and Houston. Also further expanding routes to Hawaii from Oakland, Portland and Seattle. Smart!


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Alaska Airlines to launch flights from San Jose to Austin

By Steve Johnson
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In response to American Airlines' announcement last week that it will discontinue its "nerd bird" flights from San Jose to Austin on Aug. 25, Alaska Airlines said Monday it will begin providing daily service from San Jose to Austin on Sept. 2.

The new seven-day-a-week flight, which will originate in Portland, Ore., will depart San Jose at 8:55 a.m. and arrive at Austin-Bergstrom International Airport at 2:15 p.m. CDT. The return flight will depart Austin at 3 p.m. Central time and arrive in San Jose at 4:40 p.m.

"The San Jose-Austin route is a natural extension of our network, providing a vital link between two high-tech hubs," Andrew Harrison, Alaska Airlines' vice president of planning and revenue management said in a statement.

Alaska spokeswoman Bobbie Egan said the new flights are being launched in response to American Airlines' decision to end its twice-weekly flights from San Jose to Austin. Those flights, begun by American in 1992, were known as nerd birds because they have heavily catered to Silicon Valley engineers and other technology workers.

Tickets for the Alaska Airlines flights can be bought starting Thursday at www.alaskaair.com and by calling 1-800-252-7522.

Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air, which are subsidiaries of Alaska Air Group, currently fly 13 times a day out of San Jose, serving Sacramento, Boise, Portland and Seattle.

Source: San Jose Mercury


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Old thread rehash alert...lol

Customers can now book travel on Alaska Airlines for service between San Diego and Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, beginning Nov. 12, 2010, subject to approval by the Mexican government.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Alaska-Ai ... l?x=0&.v=1


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Alaska Airlines Starts Flights from Bellingham, WA to Honolulu

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Bellingham is located about an hour and a half north of Seattle and just four miles south of the Canadian border. Over the past few years Belingham International Airport (BLI) has been growing tremendously. Friday was an exciting day for the airport and Alaska Airlines. Even though Alaska and their sister carrier Horizon Air have been flying out of Bellingham to Las Vegas and Seattle for quite sometime now, Alaska has now started non-stop service to Honolulu (HNL). They will fly to Honolulu and back once per day using a Boeing 737-800 aircraft. Alaska started their first flight to Hawaii in 2007 and now has eighth west coast cities connecting to the islands of Hawaii.

"Alaska Airlines is proud to call the Pacific Northwest home. So we're delighted to offer Bellingham its first-ever nonstop scheduled service to Hawaii," said Joe Sprague, Alaska Airlines' vice president of marketing. "Our new Honolulu flights will allow travelers from north of Seattle and the Lower Mainland to take advantage of our low fares, award-winning service and Mileage Plan earning opportunities via an easy-to-access, nearby airport."
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Due to weight and range issues, the flight will be flown with 10 empty seats. That is a win for passengers, since this means there will be quite a few empty middle seats, making the flight more comfortable.
This guy is loving the idea he is heading to Hawaii!

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I asked Christina Aldanese of the Hawaii Visitors and Convention Bureau if Hawaiians thought it odd to fly on planes to the west coast of the United States on an airplane that has "Alaska" on the side. She explained that Hawaii and Alaska states have a sort of sisterhood with both not being a part of the continental United States and the last two to join the union. Many folks going to and coming from the islands truly appreciate the additional flights that Alaska has provided.

(Note: the statement by Aldanese is wrong. Hawaii is not part of the continental USA; Alaska is. What she should have said is that Hawaii and Alaska are not part of the contiguous US).
See http://blog.seattlepi.com/airlinereport ... blog_last3 for full blog.


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alaska nor hawaii have boarders with the lower 48 states so i am not sure you are right.


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kevinconway wrote:
alaska nor hawaii have boarders with the lower 48 states so i am not sure you are right.


Alaska does not border the other states BUT it is on the continent of North America. Hence, it is part of the continental United States.

Contiguous United States: The 48 states that share borders with each other (i.e. the states between Canada and Mexico)

Continental United States: Those states on the North American continent (i.e. the Alaska and the contiguous United States).

The United States of America: All 50 states (plus territories and the District of Criminals, er, Columbia).


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On a related note, Horizon Air is to be rebranded as Alaska.
http://www.alaskaair.com/as/www2/compan ... -brand.asp?


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