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 Post subject: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:03 am 
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Week 1

Bowling Green @ Idaho
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GWY3 ... /KTOL/KLWS

New Hampshire @ Toledo
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8 ... /KPSM/KTOL

UNLV @ Wisconsin
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY4 ... /KLAS/KMSN

North Texas @ Florida International
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA8 ... /KDAL/KFLL


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:08 pm 
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Thinking W. Carolina @ Georgia Tech
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA9 ... /KGSO/KATL

S. Carolina St @ Central Mich
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/RBY8 ... /KCAE/KLAN


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:00 pm 
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mistaks1 wrote:

Not sure about this one. Unless they have changed recently, Alaska's charter flights are usually numbered 7XXX. This was probably just a plane they were routing through maintenance at GSO. Plus, it's only 155 miles to drive directly from WCU to Atlanta, versus over 200 to drive to GSO to catch a plane. Why drive farther just to fly?

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Good catch!


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:20 am 
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Wake Forest @ Syracuse
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE9 ... /KGSO/KSYR

Western Illinois @ Sam Houston State
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GWY3 ... /KMLI/KCLL


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:50 am 
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CU @ Hawaii
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/RYN6 ... /KDEN/PHNL


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:13 am 
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Tennessee Tech at Iowa


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:36 am 
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ULM @ FSU
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8 ... /KMLU/KTLH

USF @ Notre Dame
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK3 ... /KTPA/KSBN
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NAO3 ... /KTPA/KSBN

UTC @ Nebraska
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/RBY8 ... /KCHA/KLNK

McNeese St @ Kansas
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY4 ... /KCWF/KMCI

Minni @ USC
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8 ... /KMSP/KLAX

I think UCLA @ Houston
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL1 ... /KLAX/KIAH


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:08 pm 
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Arkansas State @ Illinois
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK3 ... /KMEM/KCMI

Army @ Northern Illinois
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/COA1 ... /KSWF/KORD

Boise State vs. Georgia (Atlanta, GA)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8 ... /KBOI/KATL

BYU @ Ole Miss
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/FFT8 ... /KPVU/KTUP

Colorado State @ New Mexico
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/FFT8 ... /KFNL/KABQ

Eastern Kentucky @ Kansas State
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8 ... /KLEX/KMHK

Idaho State @ Washington State
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY4 ... /KPIH/KLWS

Indiana State @ Penn State
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/WAL8 ... /KHUF/KUNV

Kent State @ Alabama
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NAO6 ... /KCAK/KBHM

Lafayette @ North Dakota State
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8 ... /KABE/KFAR

Louisiana-Lafayette @ Oklahoma State
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY4 ... /KLFT/KOKC

Miami (OH) @ Missouri
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK3 ... /KDAY/KCOU

Montana @ Tennessee
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8 ... /KMSO/KTYS

Northwestern @ Boston College
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL1 ... /KORD/KBED

Ohio @ New Mexico State
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/RYN3 ... /KLCK/KLRU

Oregon vs. LSU (Arlington, TX)
Oregon:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/COA1 ... /KEUG/KDFW
LSU:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/COA1 ... /KBTR/KDFW
LSU boosters/fans:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK6 ... /KBTR/KDFW
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA8 ... /KBTR/KDAL
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/COA1 ... /KBTR/KDFW

Sacramento State @ Oregon State
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY4 ... /KSMF/KEUG

Southern Utah @ South Dakota State
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8 ... /KCDC/KFSD

Texas State @ Texas Tech
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA8 ... /KAUS/KLBB

Utah State @ Auburn
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/RYN3 ... /KLGU/KICT
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/RYN3 ... /KICT/KCSG
(Note tech stop in ICT...guess there wasn't enough fuel to make it all the way from KLGU to KCSG in one trip after flying up from KIWA?)


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:47 am 
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Is this Stony Brook at UTEP?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NCR2 ... /KISP/KELP

This is listed as National Cargo. Do they have passenger as well?

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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:35 am 
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Hadrian wrote:
Is this Stony Brook at UTEP?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NCR2 ... /KISP/KELP

This is listed as National Cargo. Do they have passenger as well?

Hadrian

Yes


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:32 pm 
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Missed this one yesterday:

Middle Tennessee @ Purdue
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK3 ... /KMQY/KLAF


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:42 pm 
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Hadrian wrote:
Is this Stony Brook at UTEP?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NCR2 ... /KISP/KELP

This is listed as National Cargo. Do they have passenger as well?

Hadrian

Nice catch. The passenger arm of the company is called National Airlines. Their website is here:

http://www.nationalairlines.aero/

They have a picture of their 757 here, which is apparently the aircraft used to operate this charter flight.

Interesting that they do not have a separate callsign for passenger service - I guess the "National" callsign from the old National Airlines is still reserved.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:16 pm 
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The call sign is assigned to the company, not the type of operation.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:59 am 
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rw812 wrote:
The call sign is assigned to the company, not the type of operation.

Hmmm. What about Lufthansa Cargo? I understand Lufthansa Cargo uses the callsign "Lufthansa Cargo" instead of just "Lufthansa." Though Lufthansa Cargo is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Lufthansa, and thus, somewhat distinct from the scheduled passenger arm. There may not exist any such distinction between National Air Cargo and the current National Airlines.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:30 am 
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One interesting footnote: it seems McNeese State's return flight from Kansas went to Houston instead of Lake Charles, due to all the bad weather associated with Tropical Storm Lee in Louisiana:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY4 ... /KMCI/KHOU


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:06 pm 
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Miami (FL) @ Maryland
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8 ... /KMIA/KBWI


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:49 pm 
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Week 2

Arizona @ Oklahoma State
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE9 ... /KTUS/KOKC

Florida A&M @ Hampton
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY4 ... /KTLH/KPHF


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:12 am 
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Some airlines with multiple call signs:

British Airways
Speedbird for most but Shuttle for some domestic flights.

Air China
Air China for passenger and Air China Freight for cargo flights.

Lufthansa
Lufthansa for passengers and Lufhthansa Cargo for freighters.




cparrott73 wrote:
One interesting footnote: it seems McNeese State's return flight from Kansas went to Houston instead of Lake Charles, due to all the bad weather associated with Tropical Storm Lee in Louisiana:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY4 ... /KMCI/KHOU

I think it's somewhat curious that they stuck with Allegiant after the close call last year. Never found anything in public that explained what happened, wonder if the school got an explanation?


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:19 pm 
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cparrott73 wrote:


I'm still amazed at how many teams still fly into OKC vs. SWO. I know that T Boone helped pay to extend the main runway so OSU could fly out of SWO without having to make the hour or so drive to KOKC.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:27 pm 
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pika1000 wrote:
cparrott73 wrote:


I'm still amazed at how many teams still fly into OKC vs. SWO. I know that T Boone helped pay to extend the main runway so OSU could fly out of SWO without having to make the hour or so drive to KOKC.


I'd say it has a lot to do with hotel arrangements and the fact they might not have to ferry the planes back to another airport.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:32 pm 
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71Zulu wrote:
Some airlines with multiple call signs:

British Airways
Speedbird for most but Shuttle for some domestic flights.

Air China
Air China for passenger and Air China Freight for cargo flights.

Lufthansa
Lufthansa for passengers and Lufhthansa Cargo for freighters.


There's also Singapore and Singcargo for Singapore Airlines and Singapore Cargo respectively.

Air China/Air China Cargo, Lufthansa/Lufthansa Cargo, and Singapore/Singapore Cargo are all different companies.

I haven't found anything to indicate that British's domestic flights are operated by a different company. I don't think it is; the "Shuttle" call sign may be a tradition left over from when BEA and BOAC were different companies. British also uses the call sign "Santa" for Christmas charter flights.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:27 pm 
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71Zulu wrote:
I think it's somewhat curious that they stuck with Allegiant after the close call last year. Never found anything in public that explained what happened, wonder if the school got an explanation?

Contractual obligations, maybe? Might be too costly for McNeese to get out of the contract if they signed a multi-year deal.

I've seen a couple of articles that mentioned "pilot distraction" as the suspected cause of the Allegiant incident at LCH last year. However, the articles didn't say specifically what the pilots did or did not do as a result of the distraction.

The main runway at LCH is only 6500' long. Given that the flight was operated in early September, it was likely very hot. Perhaps they had the flaps set wrong for the conditions, and were not able to get airborne without overrunning the runway.

I noticed for last week's flight, they departed from Chennault Field (KCWF) instead of Lake Charles Regional. Chennault has a nice, 10,700' runway that probably allows for a much greater safety margin than LCH.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:31 pm 
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FlyingJ054 wrote:
pika1000 wrote:
I'm still amazed at how many teams still fly into OKC vs. SWO. I know that T Boone helped pay to extend the main runway so OSU could fly out of SWO without having to make the hour or so drive to KOKC.


I'd say it has a lot to do with hotel arrangements and the fact they might not have to ferry the planes back to another airport.

I have heard this, too. Seems quite common for teams to fly into OKC, then depart from SWO after the game. OKC probably has a better selection of available hotels and restaurants for visiting teams to choose from. I have seen a lot of teams fly into OMA and depart from LNK when playing Nebraska, supposedly for the same reason.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:42 pm 
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Florida International @ Louisville:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK3 ... /KMIA/KSDF

Missouri @ Arizona State:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NAO3 ... /KCOU/KPHX


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 College Football Charter Flights
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:28 am 
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Fresno State @ Nebraska
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