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 Post subject: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:27 pm 
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Hello everyone,

I was trying to track some Allegiant aircraft, using the tail number, none of Allegiant's Aircraft show up. Every time I type in an AYY tail number I always get the "FlightAware couldn't find flight tracking data for..." Why is this? Thanks in advance.

Edgar


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:29 pm 
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We only have tail numbers for selected airlines. Allegiant has not elected to participate.

You can still track Allegiant flights by flight number or route.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:46 pm 
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Oh I see, that is interesting. Thank you for the information, I really appreciate it.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:11 pm 
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CapEdgar380 wrote:
Hello everyone,

I was trying to track some Allegiant aircraft, using the tail number, none of Allegiant's Aircraft show up. Every time I type in an AYY tail number I always get the "FlightAware couldn't find flight tracking data for..." Why is this? Thanks in advance.

Edgar

Try AAY with the filght number. NOT AYY.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:33 pm 
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Do you have an updated list of what airlines do participate and provide tail numbers on flightaware? And why would a big one like Southwest not do it - they provide tail numbers on the BTS website since they handle more than 1% of airline revenue.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:51 pm 
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AV8NLVR wrote:
Do you have an updated list of what airlines do participate and provide tail numbers on flightaware? And why would a big one like Southwest not do it - they provide tail numbers on the BTS website since they handle more than 1% of airline revenue.

Southwest: Because they are required by law to give the data to the BTS and are NOT required by law to give the data to FlightAware.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:17 pm 
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Southwest: Because they are required by law to give the data to the BTS and are NOT required by law to give the data to FlightAware.


Time to write your Congressman.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:47 pm 
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AV8NLVR wrote:
Do you have an updated list of what airlines do participate and provide tail numbers on flightaware? And why would a big one like Southwest not do it - they provide tail numbers on the BTS website since they handle more than 1% of airline revenue.


ANA Wings
Air Asia Sdn. Bhd.
Air Berlin, Inc.
Air Canada
Air China
Air New Zealand Ltd.
Air Nippon Co. Ltd.
All Nippon Airways Co., Ltd.
American Airlines Inc.
American Eagle, Inc.
Asiana Airlines
British Airways
Brussels Airlines
Caribbean Airlines
Chautauqua Airlines
Comair, Inc.
Compass Airlines
Corporate Flight International, Inc.
Delta Air Lines, Inc.
Egypt Air
Federal Express Corporation
Finnair O/y
Frontier Airlines, Inc.
GoJet Airlines
Hawaiian Airlines
JetBlue Airways
Jetstar Airways
Pinnacle Airlines, Inc. D/B/A Delta Connection
Qantas Airways Limited
QantasLink
Qatar Airways Company
Regional Express Airlines
Republic Airways
Scandinavian Airlines System
Shuttle America
Singapore Airlines Limited
SkyWest Airlines
South African Airways
Spirit Airlines, Inc.
Swiss International Airlines
TAM Airlines
Thai Airways International Ltd.
Transportes Aereos Portugueses, E.p.
Turk Hava Yollari (Turkish Airlines Co.)
US Airways
United Air Lines Inc.
United Parcel Service, Inc.
Vhm Schul- Und Charterflug GMBH, Muhlheim/ruhr
Virgin Australia Airlines

Participation is at the airlines discretion. The BTS tail number data is reported 4 months late, not useful in a realtime flight tracking environment.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:24 pm 
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mduell wrote:
Participation is at the airlines discretion. The BTS tail number data is reported 4 months late, not useful in a realtime flight tracking environment.

Another thing to note about the BTS tail number: Not all airlines report registrations. Some airlines use internal "tail numbers" (e.g. American).


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:10 pm 
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The system doesn't seem to be working correctly for US Airways. Why is this?

Example, type in the Allegheny retro reg.....N745VJ
This plane was in TPA on Saturday April 7 and again on Monday April 9, overnighting until Tuesday morning. But that information doesn't show. I can rarely find an aircraft en route and I don't think their 734 show up at all.

What's going on? :cry:


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:49 pm 
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Do you know the flight numbers in and out of TPA?


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:00 am 
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mduell wrote:
Air Asia Sdn. Bhd.


They don't track. I've tried approx half the fleet and none are found.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:16 am 
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RobK wrote:
mduell wrote:
Air Asia Sdn. Bhd.


They don't track. I've tried approx half the fleet and none are found.


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/9MAHU
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/9MAFM

Looks like they're only sending block times not wheels/up down, I'll get in touch with them.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:47 am 
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mduell wrote:
RobK wrote:
mduell wrote:
Air Asia Sdn. Bhd.


They don't track. I've tried approx half the fleet and none are found.


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/9MAHU
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/9MAFM

Looks like they're only sending block times not wheels/up down, I'll get in touch with them.


Mark those are 2 out of very few that are listed. Most of them are not, 9MAHZ for example and most of the 9MAQ_ series. Fleet is here -

http://www.planespotters.net/Airline/AirAsia


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:35 pm 
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That was just two examples, we have 55 registrations in the database for them.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:38 pm 
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Did FedEx and UPS stop doing this? Their registrations don't seem to have been tracking for the past week.

N68050
N150UP


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:05 pm 
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The FedEx and UPS coverage is spotty.

10 recent examples:
Code:
ident |  reg   | actualdeparturetime
------+--------+---------------------
UPS34 | N255UP | 2012-04-12 19:15:00
UPS33 | N256UP | 2012-04-12 08:18:00
FDX77 | N588FE | 2012-04-12 07:53:00
FDX77 | N588FE | 2012-04-11 19:30:00
UPS34 | N256UP | 2012-04-11 18:49:00
UPS33 | N280UP | 2012-04-11 08:22:00
FDX77 | N612FE | 2012-04-11 07:57:00
FDX77 | N612FE | 2012-04-10 19:48:00
UPS34 | N280UP | 2012-04-10 19:36:00
UPS33 | N250UP | 2012-04-10 08:16:00


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:30 pm 
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Yeah FDX aren't tracking. Picked up FDX9302 early hours UTC on 11th as N394FE but nothing for that REG on that date and time when searching by REG. Mark can you fix please, thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:35 pm 
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RobK wrote:
Yeah FDX aren't tracking. Picked up FDX9302 early hours UTC on 11th as N394FE but nothing for that REG on that date and time when searching by REG. Mark can you fix please, thanks.


And A310 N803FD can't be tracked by REG at all, doesn't exist apparently. Was on FDX9306 a few mins after 9302 above.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:50 pm 
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FDX still not tracking. Mark any date for a fix please?


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:09 pm 
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FedEx/UPS are working as expected; we only have coverage for some aircraft at some airports.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:25 pm 
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Which "some" airports and which "some" aircraft please?


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 Post subject: Re: Why Can't I track Allegiant?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:27 pm 
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Mark, Hawaiian have stopped tracking since 10 June, or at least for N388HA anyway. Could you investigate please. Thx.


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