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 Post subject: General Aviation Filter - Horizon Airlines
PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:49 pm 
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Guys,
would it be possible to get QXE flights removed from the General Aviation filter (and PCM flights would be nice too). I'm in Sacramento and look at the GA filter most days, and it's always full of these airline type entries.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:36 pm 
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Good catch, will be removed within 24 hours.


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 Post subject: Request
PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:11 pm 
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Can we also look at JAI, OOM, SKK, SSV, SWG, SYX, TSC and WJA flights being removed from the General Aviation filter?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:18 am 
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Thanks, will be moved within 24 hours.

We use an opt-in system where everything goes in GA unless it's a known airline, so we appreciate the feedback to improve the list.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:34 pm 
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CJA, CUB, FLE, GGN and RZO too please.

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 Post subject: General Aviation Filter - Ameriflight
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:53 pm 
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Guys - could I also add AMF to the list to be removed please.

Thanks - Rick


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:59 pm 
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Thanks, will be added within 24 hours.


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 Post subject: CPZ
PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:21 am 
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Can we also remove CPZ from the General Aviation filter?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:34 am 
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Done, give it a few hours to propagate.


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 Post subject: Re: General Aviation Filter - Horizon Airlines
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:17 am 
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Can we put CNK and KFS back in as GA?

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 Post subject: Re: General Aviation Filter - Horizon Airlines
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:19 pm 
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JetChaser wrote:
Can we put CNK and KFS back in as GA?

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KFS is not a general aviation operator!


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 Post subject: Re: General Aviation Filter - Horizon Airlines
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:10 pm 
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This is a problem we've seen, everyone defines airline/GA differently.


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 Post subject: Re: General Aviation Filter - Horizon Airlines
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:02 pm 
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rw812 wrote:
JetChaser wrote:
Can we put CNK and KFS back in as GA?

JetChaser

KFS is not a general aviation operator!


Not sure what else you would consider an operator of primarily Learjets and Falcons.

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 Post subject: Re: General Aviation Filter - Horizon Airlines
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:34 pm 
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JetChaser wrote:
rw812 wrote:
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Can we put CNK and KFS back in as GA?

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KFS is not a general aviation operator!


Not sure what else you would consider an operator of primarily Learjets and Falcons.

JetChaser

It's not the size of aircraft that determines whether the aircraft is a general aviation aircraft.

Probably before your time there was an airline named Prinair in Puerto Rico. It operated hundreds of flights a day throughout the Caribbean. Yet, it's largest aircraft for most of the time was a Heron. It was an airline, not a GA operator.

For a more recent operator, check out Cape Air. It's largest aircraft is the Cessna 402 (although it does operate a couple of ATR42 on a code share with another airline. Ameriflight has an extensive route system in the USA and Caribbean. It's not general aviation though it's largest aircraft is the EMB120. Most flights are operated by Beech 99 and Metro aircraft.

The term "general aviation" does not describe a type of aircraft. Many 737's are general aviation aircraft while even more Cessna 402's are not.


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 Post subject: Re: General Aviation Filter - Horizon Airlines
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:35 am 
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Cape Air and I assume Prinair operate or operated regular scheduled flights that the general public could or can purchase tickets for, with KFS they do not operate regular scheduled flights nor can the general public purchases tickets per se for any of their flights, they strictly operate charters on an ad hoc basis and this constitutes General Aviation in my opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: General Aviation Filter - Horizon Airlines
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:45 am 
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You're right. More research indicates that Kalitta Charter operates under a different call sign than Kalitta Air (KFS and CKS respectively) so KFS is general aviation.

That said, operating strictly ad hoc charters still does not make an operator general aviation. There are many operators that do operate ad hoc flights for both the public and other airlines yet they are not general aviation.

As mduell implies. the definition of an airline is not well defined. In my opinion, if an operator operates under Part 121 it's an airline.


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 Post subject: Re: General Aviation Filter - Horizon Airlines
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:54 pm 
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Can we put CNK back in as GA?

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