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robbreid	Post subject: Dulles Jet Center roof collapse on biz jets . . . Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:27 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:00 pm Posts: 2678 Location: Toronto	Dulles Jet Center Hangar collapse reported at Dulles Jet Center due to heavy snow, no owners have been allowed in, and they have been unable to remove any aircraft. Reports are, it happened around 8am, 5 persons were in the building at the time, fortunately nobody was injured. Four biz jets are inside the collapsed hanger, damage unknown. Last edited by robbreid on Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:05 am, edited 1 time in total.
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deef1999	Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:38 am
FlightAware Member Joined: Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:00 pm Posts: 1722 Location: KSUA	Global Warming (yeah, I know it's weather, not climate)
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im4point	Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:17 am
FlightAware Member Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:00 pm Posts: 378 Location: Chicago, IL	I didn't know you could fit jets in a hanger. I thought they were parked in a hangar.
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flyboy97222	Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:01 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:00 pm Posts: 2659 Location: Sunny South Florida	im4point wrote: I didn't know you could fit jets in a hanger. I thought they were parked in a hangar. +1
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fholbert	Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:27 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:00 pm Posts: 1208 Location: Corona CA (KAJO)	im4point wrote: I didn't know you could fit jets in a hanger. I thought they were parked in a hangar. There is a private 737 and a private 757 at Burbank. I never see then on the line and assume they are hangared. Remember when the 737 can back from North Korea? They pulled the plane into a hangar.
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concord977	Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:44 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:00 pm Posts: 251 Location: KFDK / KIAD / KDCA / KBWI / KGAI	This facility was just constructed in 2006-2007 and is the newest FBO at KIAD.
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garp	Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:18 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:00 pm Posts: 70 Location: Connecticut	Sure hope the architects are up-to-date on their malpractice insurance premiums.
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deef1999	Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:25 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:00 pm Posts: 1722 Location: KSUA	garp wrote: Sure hope the architects are up-to-date on their malpractice insurance premiums. Not sure you can blame them by simply looking at a fuzzy photograph. What are you basing that on? Or was it tongue in cheek?
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fholbert	Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:33 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:00 pm Posts: 1208 Location: Corona CA (KAJO)	garp wrote: Sure hope the architects are up-to-date on their malpractice insurance premiums. Architects just do the pretty stuff. Engineers do the math. One has to assume the hangar was built to code with the required roof loading?
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WiserTime07	Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:34 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:00 pm Posts: 1009 Location: KLRO	garp wrote: Sure hope the architects are up-to-date on their malpractice insurance premiums. Anyone familiar with commercial construction knows that's what structural engineers are for. And alot of times, acts of God are exempt from liability in certain circumstances. I'm not sure how their policies are set up, but 24+" of snow in less than a day might be one of them.
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robbreid	Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:28 am
FlightAware Member Joined: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:00 pm Posts: 2678 Location: Toronto	NBC News confirms that 'jets' inside hangar have been damaged.
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dcgjedde	Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:10 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:00 am Posts: 529	Are there any lists available of the aircraft damaged?
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wazzu90	Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:13 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:00 am Posts: 4238 Location: YKM - Yakima, WA	WiserTime07 wrote: garp wrote: Sure hope the architects are up-to-date on their malpractice insurance premiums. Anyone familiar with commercial construction knows that's what structural engineers are for. And alot of times, acts of God are exempt from liability in certain circumstances. I'm not sure how their policies are set up, but 24+" of snow in less than a day might be one of them. Send the bill to Al Gore!
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WiserTime07	Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:23 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:00 pm Posts: 1009 Location: KLRO	Well, he does think he's God...
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Flight7	Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:31 pm
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:00 pm Posts: 6	I have photos I recieved in an email earlier today, I will post them later tonight. 2 Tail numbers you can make out are N585JC and N89MX.
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Flight7	Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:47 pm
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:00 pm Posts: 6	here are some photos of the hanger. Looks like an insurance nightmare.
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robbreid	Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:48 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:00 pm Posts: 2678 Location: Toronto	C-FRKQ Global Express XRS just registered N89MX in December!!!, and Airliners photo of N585JC Gulfstream V owned by Hilton Hotels. Wow, reminds me of the Whittier earthquake in Reseda - every alley I looked down, the roofs had collapsed on all the cars, and the back ends where sticking up in the air - dozens of cars. Amazing photos. I see 3 very sorry looking Global's and the Gulfstream V.
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fholbert	Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:24 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:00 pm Posts: 1208 Location: Corona CA (KAJO)	Holy Crap! Thanks for posting those!
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Flight7	Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:44 pm
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:00 pm Posts: 6	no problem My interest is in how the owners and insurance companies duke this out. I would push for replacement myself. I estimate about 180 million in aircraft.. It is very sad to see these photos.
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Beechluvr	Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:48 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:00 am Posts: 985 Location: KHRO	Wow.......just wow. Unbelievable.
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fholbert	Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:52 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:00 pm Posts: 1208 Location: Corona CA (KAJO)	Snow load my butt. That weld pulled apart clean. It was little more than a tack.
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fholbert	Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:53 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:00 pm Posts: 1208 Location: Corona CA (KAJO)	Flight7 wrote: no problem My interest is in how the owners and insurance companies duke this out. I would push for replacement myself. I estimate about 180 million in aircraft.. It is very sad to see these photos. My guess is the insurance companies will go after the contractor and inspection company. Hell, it would take a year to fix those planes.
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FlyNYC	Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:07 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:00 pm Posts: 1678 Location: Pointy end, but keeping a weary eye on the back	HOOOOOOLY CRAP! Those pics are incredible. Looks like a fleet of Cessnas left out in the snow, sitting on their tails.
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fholbert	Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:08 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:00 pm Posts: 1208 Location: Corona CA (KAJO)	The jet center had three other hangers. Bet they were dragging everything out of the other three!
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robbreid	Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:10 pm
FlightAware Member Joined: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:00 pm Posts: 2678 Location: Toronto	delete; incorrect info. Last edited by robbreid on Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:47 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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