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lieberma
 Post subject: Not your nomal place for a hold.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:42 am 
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Wheels were down, flaps fully extended on final into BWI, pilot started doing S turns about 2000 AGL. I told my wife, this is not normal as the turns were GA like, very distinct maneuvers.

Next thing you know, engines spool up and pilot makes a sharp right. After we were facing the Chesapeake Bay, pilot came on and said a plane cut in front of us and due to loss of spacing we aborted the landing, but everything is ok!

I could imagine somebody on the airways getting the "call the tower instructions" after this happened.
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drdisque
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I was on an SWA flight a few years back on Final to FLL and the pilot did about 3 S-turns on final to try to create spacing due to an aircraft on the runway - however the aircraft didn't clear in time and we aborted, roaring over downtown Fort Lauderdale at TOGA thrust to get back into the left pattern.
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jsjamieson33
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This happend on halloween landing into SFO. Our spacing was cut so we had to switch from right to left. Fun times
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jsjamieson33
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This happend on halloween landing into SFO. Our spacing was cut so we had to switch from right to left. Fun times
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cm5299
 Post subject: Re: Not your nomal place for a hold.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:16 am 
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lieberma wrote:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA3862/history/20100916/1945Z/KJAN/KBWI

Wheels were down, flaps fully extended on final into BWI, pilot started doing S turns about 2000 AGL. I told my wife, this is not normal as the turns were GA like, very distinct maneuvers.

Next thing you know, engines spool up and pilot makes a sharp right. After we were facing the Chesapeake Bay, pilot came on and said a plane cut in front of us and due to loss of spacing we aborted the landing, but everything is ok!

I could imagine somebody on the airways getting the "call the tower instructions" after this happened.

The S turns happen a lot into O'Hare. Give the ATC a listen and you can hear the tower/PIC asking for an "S turn for spacing" quite frequently.
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tyketto
 Post subject: Re: Not your nomal place for a hold.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:09 pm 
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cm5299 wrote:
lieberma wrote:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA3862/history/20100916/1945Z/KJAN/KBWI

Wheels were down, flaps fully extended on final into BWI, pilot started doing S turns about 2000 AGL. I told my wife, this is not normal as the turns were GA like, very distinct maneuvers.

Next thing you know, engines spool up and pilot makes a sharp right. After we were facing the Chesapeake Bay, pilot came on and said a plane cut in front of us and due to loss of spacing we aborted the landing, but everything is ok!

I could imagine somebody on the airways getting the "call the tower instructions" after this happened.

The S turns happen a lot into O'Hare. Give the ATC a listen and you can hear the tower/PIC asking for an "S turn for spacing" quite frequently.


Same here in Vegas, but mainly for arrivals on 25L, as they have the room to the south for the S turn. If it can't be done on their arriving runway (1s, 19s, 25R), ATC may change them to another runway, more than likely the parallel.

BL.
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geoflyer
 Post subject: Re: Not your nomal place for a hold.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:54 pm 
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cm5299 wrote:
The S turns happen a lot into O'Hare. Give the ATC a listen and you can hear the tower/PIC asking for an "S turn for spacing" quite frequently.


Same at OAK. I've seen both JetBlue and FedEx flights making S-turns on final. Never seen anyone have to do a go-around (although I've seen them at SFO) but S-turns seem common enough here.
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