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will744 FlightAware Member

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 994 Location: southeast TX (CXO)
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:50 pm Post subject: Diamond D-jet... |
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| What do you think about the new D-jet? I think it is pitiful, as far as range and weight and all the specs... |
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ejericson FlightAware Member
Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 143 Location: KEUG
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I dont care about all that stuff, just look at, its hideous!!! |
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will744 FlightAware Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| ejericson wrote: | | I dont care about all that stuff, just look at, its hideous!!! |
HAHAHA I was reading about it in my friends AOPA magazine and like I said before, it's just pitiful! Best words to describe it. |
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wazzu90 FlightAware Member

Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 3783 Location: YKM - Yakima, WA
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I like it. I like 'The Jet' even more. |
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will744 FlightAware Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| wazzu90 wrote: | | I like it. I like 'The Jet' even more. |
Just because I don't like it, huh? |
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wazzu90 FlightAware Member

Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 3783 Location: YKM - Yakima, WA
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| will744 wrote: | | wazzu90 wrote: | | I like it. I like 'The Jet' even more. |
Just because I don't like it, huh? |
Yes the world revolves around you. |
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cfijames FlightAware Member

Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 2048 Location: N14
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| As papa J says, "the sun rises and falls in the crack of his ass" |
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JHEM FlightAware Member

Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 4191 Location: N14 KVAY
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| cfijames wrote: | | As papa J says, "the sun rises and falls in the crack of his ass" |
Why I never son! I say the sun rises and sets in the crack of his ass.  |
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MeekRN FlightAware Member

Joined: 18 Nov 2008 Posts: 377 Location: 0Q5
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:40 am Post subject: |
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DiamondStar
Joined: 11 Jan 2008 Posts: 7 Location: CYXU
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject: Where are your glasses?? |
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| You guys are a bunch of wierdos. What is so pittiful about it? what is wrong with its range and specs? What do you want for 1.4 million? I guess you must like that V (vomit) tail cirrus vision junk. |
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ejericson FlightAware Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Well lets now, max cruise at FL250 (ceiling) 315Kts true, 900 NM range, For and INCREASED price of $1.89 million. And then theres this, IT ONLY HAS ONE ENGINE! and like i said above, Its hideous. Poor performance, below RVSM service ceiling, piss poor range, and a hefty price tag, sounds to me like its gonna bomb.
For less money you can get a well equiped Citation, (or other biz jet) that carries more people flys higher, faster and further,
You be the judge
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w7psk
Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 28
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like a 4 place T-33  |
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WiserTime07 FlightAware Member
Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 268 Location: KLRO
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| ejericson wrote: | Well lets now, max cruise at FL250 (ceiling) 315Kts true, 900 NM range, For and INCREASED price of $1.89 million. And then theres this, IT ONLY HAS ONE ENGINE! and like i said above, Its hideous. Poor performance, below RVMC service ceiling, piss poor range, and a hefty price tag, sounds to me like its gonna bomb.
For less money you can get a well equiped Citation, (or other biz jet) that carries more people flys higher, faster and further,
You be the judge |
Yeah, the ONE ENGINED thing is what gets me too. For around that price, I'd probably take a Mustang, but who knows about that one either...
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pika1000 Charter Member

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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Where are your glasses?? |
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| DiamondStar wrote: | | You guys are a bunch of wierdos. What is so pittiful about it? what is wrong with its range and specs? What do you want for 1.4 million? I guess you must like that V (vomit) tail cirrus vision junk. |
Not that he is biased or anything....
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will744 FlightAware Member

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 994 Location: southeast TX (CXO)
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Rear end is kinda like an F-4??? |
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MeekRN FlightAware Member

Joined: 18 Nov 2008 Posts: 377 Location: 0Q5
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| i never said i didnt like it, i just posted a picture of it. but now that you mentioned it, it starts out nice, then it tapers away and looks kind of funny, im glad i am not in the back seat. |
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will744 FlightAware Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Nice avatar thingy...  |
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MeekRN FlightAware Member

Joined: 18 Nov 2008 Posts: 377 Location: 0Q5
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks, its my daughters Parole ID card photo. its old now tho, she has bangs. |
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will744 FlightAware Member

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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That is funny.  |
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ejericson FlightAware Member
Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 143 Location: KEUG
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:14 am Post subject: |
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So the consensus is we dont love the jet, and i know i said i hate the fact that its single engine and i do, flying that high and that far on one engine is disconcerning. But what do we think about the piper jet?
Again im not crazy about the single engine thing but it does have considerably better number. what do you all think?
http://www.piperjetsoutheast.com/prelimspecs.html |
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will744 FlightAware Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| That's crazy. I was just now reading about the piperjet. One came in to CXO today. First time I have heard about it... |
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carlwag
Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 27
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:45 am Post subject: |
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You guys are all missing the point. By only having one engine, this becomes a jet that you can afford to operate. A Cessna Citation can be had for less money (a used one), and it is more of an airplane, but it burns a LOT more fuel. I would love to own a jet, but I cannot afford to buy the gas. The Diamond jet is getting closer to what I would like. You can cruise 250 knots on 40 gallons per hour.
My dream jet is even smaller and lighter, has a 700 pound thrust engine, and will cruise at 240 knots on less than 20 gallons per hour. Now THAT I can afford to operate.
Remember, a Bonanza often sells for more than the same year Baron, and an Arrow often sells for about the same as a Seneca, the reason is that the average person cannot afford to operate a twin engine airplane. |
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ejericson FlightAware Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:59 am Post subject: |
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If you wanna go 240 KTS you can do that in a meridian, Or even the new Acclaim will do damn near 240 (they advertise 242 @FL 250 at best power cruise) thats why we are so so dissinterested to put it nicely in the single engine jets. Youre absolutly right about the fact that you can get a very nicely equipped citation for less money. I think i even said that up there ^ But for that you're doing 360 kts+ with highly increased range, however like you said you're burning more gas. Thats what is to be expected in a jet, the old saying is true "you get what you pay for" and jet owners expect the best! For that kind of money you should be well surpassing piston/turboprop speeds. Thats my opinion and im sure others would back me up.
Its a cadilac vs. a corolla dude, you pay more you get more and get there in style. |
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deef1999 FlightAware Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Correct me if I am wrong ( I know I'm gonna regret that), but another old saying goes "if you have to ask you can't afford it".....Why spend fat money on even a VLJ if you can't afford the oil bill? |
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carlwag
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| If I was interested in a turboprop, then yes, the Meridian is a great airplane (maybe). But who doesn't dream of a jet? There is nothing like a jet, even if it only goes up to 25,000 feet and only cruises economically at 240 knots. Sure, you guys dream big - but my dreams are realistic. For what I can afford to buy and operate, my dream jet is all there is. I'll take it over a turboprop any day! |
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